11-05-2009 05:15 PM
Major Update! Sep. 4th, 2009
I finally received a response from Rockstar Games Support regarding the official requirements for this trophy. The letter in its entirety is in the Important Technical Notes and FAQ section. Rockstar's response pretty much puts to rest a lot of the rumors surrounding this trophy, but getting the trophy is still just as time-consuming to get as it always was.
Attention New AWP Trophy Hunters: This trophy can be a scheduling nightmare and you cannot expect the people who are listed here to simply drop whatever they are doing and help you get all of your victories. If you send a message to the people on this thread saying, "Hey, let me win all the races, ok?" or something like that we will know that you haven't read this guide in its entirety and you haven't done your homework. Part of your homework assignment is listed in the Before You Begin section.
If you post your info (Headset?, Location, Time Zone, and your proposed schedule during which you would be open for doing your AWP run and helping someone else) as a reply to this thread, other trophy hunters with a similar schedule will be able to message you and help you out.
Your trophy hunt should be relatively easier than those who have gone before you because here you can read success stories and examples of what it took for others to get theirs. Having said that, you are still responsible for your share of the load. AWP Hunters should be willing to spend at least 10hrs (but probably more) on their trophy and another 10hrs (but hopefully less) for their AWP partners.
Table of Contents
Purpose - What is this thread about?
Important Technical Notes and FAQ - What do you need to do to get your AWP trophy?
AWP Trophy Hall of Fame - Who has gotten their trophy already and how did they get it?
Helpersand Hunters- Who has helped and who may still need this trophy?
Before You Begin - How do you prepare for this trophy?
The Checklist - What can you use to keep track of your progress?
The Game Modes - What modes are there and how do you beat them quickly?
Closing Wishes & My AWP Story - How did I get my AWP trophy?
This thread chronicles the journeys of those who dared to defy the faulty servers that were used to record the wins for this elusive trophy (it had eluded me three and a half times - some would call it their white whale; I know I did). This guide is a work in progress, but it should contain some helpful tips for all AWP hunters out there who would like to get this trophy for themselves.
Enjoy your hunt! You get at least $54,000 just for finishing the races, plus however much you make in each of the other modes (could be around $20k if you're good), so it shouldn't be a complete bust if you don't get it on your first run.
Important Technical Notes and FAQ
What do Take-Two / Rockstar have to say about getting this trophy?
At long last, here's an e-mail from Rockstar listing the requirements for getting this trophy:
Although the "Auf Wiedersehen Petrovic" trophy may not have the highest point value, it is one of the toughest goals to obtain in Grand Theft Auto IV.
The basic synopsis says, "Win all ranked multiplayer variations, all races and "Cops 'n Crooks", as both sides" but this brief description only scratches the surface of what is required to complete this challenge. We hope that the more detailed description below will help all the Rockstar fans who have emailed us over the last few months inquiring about this trophy.
To receive this trophy you must have:
• The highest point total at the end of the game for all points based games.
• Achieved the best race time (at the end of the race) for all Race tracks (including Helicopter races, Boat races, Free races, and Cannonball Runs).
• Achieved the best race time (at the end of the race) for all GTA Race tracks (including Helicopter races, Boat races, Free races, and Cannonball Runs).
• Won as both a "cop" and a "crook" in both variations of Cops n' Crooks.
• Completed each of the co-op modes.
• There must be at least 1 opponent in the game when the final leaderboard is finished processing - being the only player left does not count.
For PS3 users, it means that only games won since 12/17/2008 count towards this challenge. If you started trying to unlock this trophy before then, all your previous work will need to be restarted.
So there you have it, folks. Straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak.
All AWP hunters must still be careful, though, because no one can prevent server issues from occurring. Because it's still beneficial to know from a technical standpoint what can prevent you from getting this trophy, here's the rest of the guide:
The biggest issue with getting this trophy is the reliability of the server that you're playing on and its ability to synchronize its data with the other online servers. From Rockstar's e-mail, though, we learned something new about this process. Specifically, if the "final leaderboard" finishes "processing," then that may mean that the servers are synchronized. How can you tell when the leaderboard is finished processing? No one knows for certain, but some people recommend either going to the next game mode or waiting 5mins on the leaderboard screen once you're done.
If you want to increase your chances of getting your trophy, then try to aim for a Clean AWP Run and try to avoid a Messy Run.
An Example of a Clean AWP Run: If you go through the following you will most likely stay logged on to the same online server, therefore increasing your chances of getting your trophy at the end of the requirements:
An Example of a Messy AWP Run: While going through the requirements, if you experiencing any of the following situations during a round/race/mission, then you may need to re-do it afterwards:
NOTE: Even if you experience one or more of the "messy run" scenarios, DON'T LOSE HOPE! Keep your PS3 running with GTA loaded and try to re-do any mode that was questionable.
How can you check to see if you're still on the same online game server?
The most secure way to check is by looking at your experience points (i.e. the money amount on the bottom left of the screen within an online game lobby) and making sure that the correct amount is displayed after each round/race/mission. If you have to quit out of GTA or restart your PS3 for whatever reason and you come back to find that your money amount and/or rank are different, then that's because you're on a server that hasn't synchronized with the one that you were on previously. Normally if you wait a day or two all of your money gets added back on correctly, but it may take longer.
Is there a place where you can check your stats to see what you've done so far?
You can check your stats in singleplayer mode by going to the Start Menu > Stats > Network. You can also go to the Rockstar Social Club web site, but the stats that you see in either location can never be fully trusted because the servers might not be synchronized with each other by the time that you login, and sometimes certain stats never get recorded at all.
How long does a typical run last?
Down in The Game Modes section I included some time estimates for each of the modes and when added together it equals around 10hrs. per person. That means that if you partner up with someone else, then you will need to devote another 10hrs or so for their run. The reason for this are the races which take the longest out of all the requirements. Regular Race Mode can take 4-5hrs, and then you have to do the races again in GTA Race Mode.
If you can't afford to do all the requirements in one session, then you may risk not getting the trophy, but at least you can build some good relationships with the people who jumped in to help you. =) I still have my AWP partners on my PSN buddy list and we play lots of other games together, so this trophy can be so much more meaningful and fruitful than any other PS3 trophy out there.
Auf Wiedersehen Petrovic Trophy Hall of Fame
(Honoring the bravery of those who have obtained their AWP trophies despite the obstacles)
- PSN Account - Has a headset? (Location, Time Zone) - Their AWP story
(For those who dared to selflessly step up and help their fellow AWPers):
- PSN Account - Has a headset? (Location, Time Zone) - Who are these masked men?
Because of school I haven't updated this section as often as I used to. I'll clean through it one of these days, but until then I'll leave it the way it is unless someone writes a new post and tells me to take their name off. I have several months of posts to catch up on, so if you've told me to remove your name or that you got the trophy already, I apologize for not updating your entry. Like I said, I'll get to you eventually. =)
(This section is for those who want to get the trophy and/or are willing to help others listed in the order in which they posted their info. If you find out that someone isn't going for their AWP trophy anymore, please let me know and I will message them and give them a week's notice before I edit their entry. If they report that they're not going for this trophy anymore or they don't respond to my notice in time then I move their entry to the Retired Hunter list below)
- PSN Account - Has a headset? (Location, Time Zone) - Personal schedules and openings for doing AWP runs
Before You Begin a Run, Here's What You Should Do...
Just as important as anything else is the master checklist that you'll need to fill out as you go through all these requirements. Here it is for your downloading pleasure. I opened mine in Paint so that I could fill in the fields with a dot to mark off everything that I finished. You can use a different colored dot to mark off a questionable item in which someone new joined in, someone dropped, or something just didn't seem right and may need re-doing.
Important Note: I cannot stress enough the importance of marking off your victories on a checklist AS SOON AS you get them. Trust me, you do NOT want to double up an effort that could have been avoided had you paid more attention to your victory tally/count.
Second Important Note: As you play through these modes, pay special attention. If someone new joins in or if someone drops out while the round is in session, you MAY need to re-do that mode. There have been reports from people who say that if someone new comes in or if someone leaves then that mode's victory doesn't get recorded properly. From a technical perspective, it may be similar to the port issue that exists when playing Bomb da Base II that kicks people out (the thread that explains it can be found here). If this happens while you're playing, make a special note on your checklist to let you know that you may need to re-do that race/mode/mission if you don't get the trophy after you've done everything else.
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The Game Modes - Breakdown of All Required Tasks
There are 5 general modes in GTA IV's online multiplayer:
They each have their own settings that can cut down on wasted time, so I'll list those suggestions and provide tips for finishing them quicker.
General Settings for Solo, Team, and Co-op Modes
Note: If the specific mode allows you to change these, then the following settings are recommended. Any differences will be noted in the sections that follow. These settings empasize greater efficiency and effort while reducing the total time spent in each mode:
Auto-aim: Allow - Just to make things quickerWeapons: Powerful, Rocket Launchers, or any weapon of your choice
Pedestrians: It's up to you, but I usually set this to Off
Online ID Display: On
Reticule Health: On - This helps you see how much health a player has when you aim at them
Voice Chat: If you're hosting, change it to On so people with headsets can talk to each other even if they're on opposite teams
Respawn Distance: Near
Respawn Time: 1 second
Time of Day: It's up to you, but I prefer Morning or Midday because there's plenty of sunlight to see far
Weather: Clear or Overcast, again because it helps with long-range visibility
Solo and Team Modes
Deathmatch & Team Deathmatch - 2 player minimum for Solo, 4 for Team (takes around 1min if you're fast)
Traffic: Doesn't matter
Speed Tip: Everyone should run to the AWPer as fast as they can. In Team Deathmatch, everyone should join a team that's not the AWPer's.
Mafiya Work & Team Mafiya Work- 2 player minimum for Solo, 4 for Team (can take anywhere from 3-10mins even if you're fast - it depends on the missions that you get)
Speed Tip: Everyone should get in a car, preferably a fast one, and drive to the AWPer. If there's a task that you can help with, complete it almost all the way but let the AWPer finish it off. Ex: Getting a car that Petrovic tells you to destroy, drive it to the AWPer, and then have them destroy both you and the car.
Car Jack City & Team Car Jack City - 4 player minimum to start (takes 10min for each version)
AI Level: Off - This way, there aren't any guards with guns protecting the cars
Speed and Money Tip: Similar to Mafiya Work, try to help the AWPer get the task completed by taking a requested vehicle close to the drop-off point. If you don't have a requested vehicle, you can still pick up a fast one and drive it to the AWPer and have them take you out. You need to wait it out for 10mins, so try to get as much money as you can, but if you're not the AWPer, be careful about getting money because at the last second you may pull into the lead and the AWPer will have to re-do this one.
Cops 'n Crooks - 4 player minimum to start (All for One takes around 4-6mins and One for All takes around 1-2mins if you're fast)
Game Type: There are two of them - "All for One" and "One for All" - Each match consists of two rounds (one as a Cop and the other as a Crook). You need to win both rounds in a match. If you lose a round as either a Cop or a Crook, then you will need to replay that particular match type again. If you die during a round but your team still wins it, then it's ok because the win will count for you, as well.
Friendly Fire: On (so that the boss can be killed quick when needed)
Traffic: Low or Medium so that the Boss can find cars on the street during the Crook round
Speed Tip for All for One: When the AWPer is a Crook there are no shortcuts, unfortunately. The Boss simply needs to reach the getaway vehicle as soon as possible. When the AWPer is a Cop, though, whoever the Crooks are simply need to take out the Boss as soon as possible. If friendly fire is enabled, then a Crook who isn't the Boss can help his boss reach the after life much quicker. =p
Speed Tip for One for All: The side without the AWPer should simply get out of their vehicle at the beginning of the round and pump their car's gas tank with bullets until it lights on fire and then everyone should walk into it and get toasty. The AWPer's team will win as soon as everyone on the other team gets barbequed.
Turf War - 4 player minimum to start (takes between 1-3mins if you're fast)
Traffic: Low or Medium
Speed Tips: Similar to the Deathmatch modes, the losing team should run or drive up to the AWPer's team and get taken out as quickly as possible. The AWPer's team should also claim all of the turfs as quickly as possible in order to increase the periodic payout since it's only $50 per owned turf every pay period (which is about every 15-20secs).
General Settings for Race and GTA Race Modes
For both race modes it's ok to choose whichever vehicle class you like. I personally prefer the faster ones, like the Infernus, Banshee, or even the Sabre GT. For boat races, the Jetmax seems to be the fastest as long as you keep the nose trim high and your tail down in order to maintain full speed. For helicopters do the opposite of the boat: Keep your nose dipped low and your tail high.
Regular Race Mode- 2 player minimum to start (takes between 4-5hrs if you're fast - when added to GTA Race Mode, that's 8-10hrs of racing!)
GTA Race Mode - 2 player minimum to start (takes between 4-5hrs if you're fast - when added to Regular Race Mode, that's 8-10hrs of racing!)
Instead of swapping race wins back-and-forth, it's preferred to win through several of them at a time. Flip a coin or whatever and win the races back to back because it saves so much on time. If you need a break from the monotony, maybe you can switch it up and let your partner get some wins, but I would recommend doing so after you clear through a handful of them.
Every 10 races your settings will get reset to their default settings, so pay attention. Also, don't forget to make sure that you take into account the need for food, bathroom breaks, or what have you.
Co-op Mode - General Info and Settings
There are three Co-op Mode missions:
The minimum number of players that you need are 2 to start and the max is 4.
If you beat these missions under Rockstar's time limit (DB is 7:04, NOOSE is 2:32, and BDBII is 5:34) you can get the Fly the Co-op trophy, but for the AWP trophy you simply need to successfully finish each mission. It doesn't matter how much time it takes, so take your time in beating them and set the difficulty level accordingly.
Note: The difficulty level doesn't change the AI of the enemies that you encounter. The enemies are just as easy to kill on Hard as they are on Easy. Changing the difficulty level only changes two things, and they are:
If you partner up with Co-op veterans you can easily get the Fly the Co-op trophy in less than 30mins. For the sake of getting these missions out of the way, though, I would suggest holding off on the Fly the Co-op trophy until later because if you don't have Co-op vets with you it can take a couple hours.
My record for helping someone get their Fly the Co-op trophy (on the first try) was 14mins. We didn't get the boat to spawn in Dealbreaker, but my trusty wingman StillHatin and myself were still able to get 6:30. BDBII took us 5mins and we got NOOSE in about 2:20. It helped that the person who needed the trophy had a headset because we were able to talk to each other on the fly. =)
Good luck on your AWP hunt!
P.S. Oh, future generations will look back on this trophy and will scoff as they recount the tales of how horrible the servers were at recording their wins. Perhaps Sony could have pressured Rockstar to use more reliable servers, but at least Sony made the PS3 to be such an awesome machine that it can withstand countless hours on continous gaming. =)
1st Run: I started my first run with a user named oogiederper in Nov of '08. We went through 3/4 of the checklist in two days but then Sony came out with a firmware update on day 3 and we needed to restart our PS3's. =( We came back, finished the remaining 1/4, and neither of us got the trophy.
2nd Run: Right after finishing that 1/4, we went through our stats and we saw that one race would not record a stat. We re-tried that race a bunch of times with different settings and we would go back to singleplayer mode to check our stats and nothing! oogiederper wanted to quit on this trophy, but I convinced him to help me go through the modes all over again but I still didn't get the trophy. oogiederper's girlfriend took his GTA game away from him after we were done and she either hid it or destroyed it because of how much time he had devoted. =p We both decided that we needed to take a break.
By the time that we decided to quit, we had left our PS3's running 5 straight days, 120hrs, from Mon night through Sat night.
3rd Run: After weeks of researching other people's AWP stories, I got the courage to start on it again. I wrote the first version of AWP guide and chronicled what all of us did. I did every single mode and repeated the ones in which new people came in or dropped out. After I got my last checklist item victory, nothing! I checked my network stats, found some anomalies in the race counts, re-did them along with Solo, Team, and Co-op modes and nothing! For one last measure, I did Solo, Team, and Co-op YET AGAIN (because in each mode someone happened to drop or someone new came on and I didn't want to leave it to server error) and nothing! I was going to quit, but something told me to have hope and leave my system on.
This had taken place from Fri afternoon (Dec 19th) into Sat afternoon - 30hrs of leaving my PS3 on with me taking several breaks but staying in a GTA multiplayer lobby the whole time.
4th (and final) Run: The GTA community on this wonderful forum banded together and provided the support and encouragement that I needed to keep at it and go through the modes all over again, so we began doing the races. We did all the Regular Race Mode ones first. We did Road races then the Boat ones and then proskatercam suggested we do Cannonball because they're the longest, so we did. We came back to do the Heli races after finishing those insanely long Cannonball races and after I finished the first chopper race (556 Connection), I got my trophy!
This last run lasted me around 6hrs, but only because we listened to proskatercam and did the Cannonball Races before the chopper races. =p He also accidentally won one of the longest Cannonball races before me so we needed to re-do that race again. It was a crazy two days, but I had a great group of guys backing me up on my way to the glory.
12-18-2008 10:33 PM
12-19-2008 10:27 AM - last edited on 08-20-2012 04:11 PM by Stage_Coach
hmmmm **** me I hate Rockstar look at all those races and Helicopter ones too????????????????????????????? damn it hate helicopters hehe
anyways I was planning to do mine all in one go on sat nite (and sun morning) is that possible??????????
heheh churros everytime I thing of this plan I hear the great escape music playing in th background are we gonna have a get together before we go do I need to add anyone to my list??
12-19-2008 11:40 AM
You know it may sound ironic ,
but this trophy, just because of its idiocy ....
in it's own way can be somewhat legendary....
It has helped me Meet some really cool and not so cool people
AND some of them to Make into really good friendships ...
The path is long and ridden with surprises to the Petrovic Club...
2 years from now :
"Yo, remember the day we did that ridiculous Petrovic Trophy"
"Oh ye that was one heck of day, or couple of days..."
"Haha yea... we met on that damn trophy didn't we ...?"
"Yep... never knew I'd find another dumb as$ like me to undertake such a crazy caffeine and red bull power trip..."
12-19-2008 03:10 PM
12-19-2008 03:37 PM
Hahaha! Shoot, after I get this sucker I'm going to print out a t-shirt that looks like this:
Auf Wiedersehen Petrovic!
True Dedication =
Hahahahah After we get this Trophy I am throwing this game in the bin heheh but serioulsy guys don't praise this Trophy to much who knows on the next game they may make a 24 hour trophy like task.
12-19-2008 03:42 PM
12-19-2008 03:58 PM
Dude Churros I so want to grab this trophy but I just dont think I can do 9 hours of it, thought I might pop it in tonight and see whats up, maybe if I could get on a schedule, ill load it up and do piece by piece of it without logging off the game and system. I dunno, but maybe ill log in tonight.