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Worst series ever!

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What is it with great stealth games getting rid of the voice actors of their main characters? First Michael Ironside doesn't return as Sam Fisher in Splinter Cell: Blacklist. David Bateson almost didn't return as Agent 47 in Hitman: Absolution. Now David Hayter isn't the voice of Snake anymore.


They're actors. They can take other jobs if they want to. A lot of other voice work might pay better than video games.


 

Is David Hayter a part of anything else as of this time? With this being such a big role in such a big gaming franchise, I'm a little surprised he didn't take the role again. Since you posted about the possibility of being a part of something bigger than video games, is he doing anything else as of now?


David Hayter is a screenwriter and film/television actor, in addition to being a voice actor. He's actually working on a film called Devil's Mile, which will be out late this year. He also has a film he wrote called Wolves in post production which he also directed, and he has a film he which he wrote the screenplay for called Caught Stealing in pre-production.

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Re: Metal Gear Solid 5 confirmed

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What is it with great stealth games getting rid of the voice actors of their main characters? First Michael Ironside doesn't return as Sam Fisher in Splinter Cell: Blacklist. David Bateson almost didn't return as Agent 47 in Hitman: Absolution. Now David Hayter isn't the voice of Snake anymore.


They're actors. They can take other jobs if they want to. A lot of other voice work might pay better than video games.


 

Is David Hayter a part of anything else as of this time? With this being such a big role in such a big gaming franchise, I'm a little surprised he didn't take the role again. Since you posted about the possibility of being a part of something bigger than video games, is he doing anything else as of now?


David Hayter is a screenwriter and film/television actor, in addition to being a voice actor. He's actually working on a film called Devil's Mile, which will be out late this year. He also has a film he wrote called Wolves in post production which he also directed, and he has a film he which he wrote the screenplay for called Caught Stealing in pre-production.


 

I did check out his Wikipedia page after posting that message to see what he could possibly be doing now. I'm glad that he's getting out there with other things, but seeing him pass up something like Metal Gear Solid, the thing everyone most likely knows him for, seems a little strange to me.

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Well, directing takes up a lot of time. He has to be there for every aspect of the film from casting, editing, filming, sound production, and then there's reshoots... If he's contractually obligated by the studio he has to follow through on it to the very end. He can't just up and abandon the film saying "hey guys, I have to record dialog for this video game...". If you direct a movie, ANY movie, it's a big deal in your career.

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Well, directing takes up a lot of time. He has to be there for every aspect of the film from casting, editing, filming, sound production, and then there's reshoots... If he's contractually obligated by the studio he has to follow through on it.


 

I'm sure he's super busy with the films he's helping to create, not doubting that one bit. It's just the whole "MGS without him" idea seems pretty surprising at this point in time.

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Im pretty certain nothing else hes doing would pay as well as being a part of one of the most successful video-game franchises.

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Im pretty certain nothing else hes doing would pay as well as being a part of one of the most successful video-game franchises.


A lot of these voice acting jobs are non-union, which means he has to use an assumed name. A lot of times get what's known as "scale". Work in commericials can pay up to $10,000 for a national spot. You'd have to get  A LOT of work to make any real money.

 

Here's the thing; you can build a much bigger, prestigous, and lucrative career directing than you can doing voice over work. Writing also can lead you to more opprotunities. Before Joss Whedon directed the Avengers, he was a writing on the sitcom Roseanne. 

 

Voice over work can only take you so far. Sometimes you have to pass up one job so you can work something that you can build your career on.

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Im pretty certain nothing else hes doing would pay as well as being a part of one of the most successful video-game franchises.


A lot of these voice acting jobs are non-union, which means he has to use an assumed name. A lot of times get what's known as "scale". Work in commericials can pay up to $10,000 for a national spot. You'd have to get  A LOT of work to make any real money.

 

Here's the thing; you can build a much bigger, prestigous, and lucrative career directing than you can doing voice over work. Writing also can lead you to more opprotunities. Before Joss Whedon directed the Avengers, he was a writing on the sitcom Roseanne. 

 

Voice over work can only take you so far. Sometimes you have to pass up one job so you can work something that you can build your career on.


So, this is the only part I completely got lost on...the rest makes sense. What in the world are you talking about?

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Game looks awesome but yea im bummed out that David Hayter isnt returning. He apparently said that he was never asked to do the role in this game either. As a fan of Metal Gear since the beginning it just wont be the same with him not there.

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Setzaroth wrote:

CaptainAlbator wrote:

Setzaroth wrote:

Im pretty certain nothing else hes doing would pay as well as being a part of one of the most successful video-game franchises.


A lot of these voice acting jobs are non-union, which means he has to use an assumed name. A lot of times get what's known as "scale". Work in commericials can pay up to $10,000 for a national spot. You'd have to get  A LOT of work to make any real money.

 

Here's the thing; you can build a much bigger, prestigous, and lucrative career directing than you can doing voice over work. Writing also can lead you to more opprotunities. Before Joss Whedon directed the Avengers, he was a writing on the sitcom Roseanne. 

 

Voice over work can only take you so far. Sometimes you have to pass up one job so you can work something that you can build your career on.


So, this is the only part I completely got lost on...the rest makes sense. What in the world are you talking about?


The biggest actors union is known as SAG (Screen Actors Guild). If you're a member of SAG you're name is registered with them, and the union has certain conditions your employer has to meet with regards to pay. If you take a non-union job, you can't use the name you've registered with SAG, you have to use an assumed name. If you use your registered name or real name, you can actually be blacklisted from any future work by the union. David Hayter's name for non-union work is Sean Barker. For the first game, the actor who played Liquid Snake was Cam Clarke, although he was billed under his non-union name James Flinders (he's used that name for work in animation going all the way back to the 80's series Robotech).

 

Kotaku did a piece about voice over work, and revealed the actors aren't paid very well for games that make into the hundreds of millions of dollars.

 

http://kotaku.com/5821597/why-excellent-video-game-voice-actors-cantor-shouldntbe-stars

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