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With gamestop, you save $5 buying a used game but end up paying $10 for a online pass. You just spent $5 MORE because you bought a used game. Seems crazy but people do crazy things.
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With gamestop, you save $5 buying a used game but end up paying $10 for a online pass. You just spent $5 MORE because you bought a used game. Seems crazy but people do crazy things.

That's not all games, but if that's the case for a game you want, then do the smart thing and buy it new.

 

I don't buy used anything...not games, not consoles, not even cars. And I don't trade in either...I still have all my original NES games. I just don't see the point. If you really need to get back a few bucks, you probably shouldn't be spending your money on video games in the first place. lol

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Online passes are so over rated. This could probably help boost sales, but very minor. With games coming in the future, people can actually rent their favorite game now and NOT pay more to access multiplayer goods.

 

Quick! Someone give EA an award for doing something amazing in the last 4 years. Smiley Very Happy

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LOL I know but that's how gamestop does it. Sell a game for $60, you buy it, play it for a week, trade it in for $25. They sell it for $55 and no online pass.
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Online passes are so over rated. This could probably help boost sales, but very minor. With games coming in the future, people can actually rent their favorite game now and NOT pay more to access multiplayer goods.

 

Quick! Someone give EA an award for doing something amazing in the last 4 years. Smiley Very Happy


 They ony  doing it becuase they are going under almost. Losing profits. laying off  folks.. trying to keep ea alive.. They messed  when they tried to screw over the pc gamers.'

 

 Thats one thing you cant do.. screw the pc gamers those re the original gamers and the money  is  actually worth its salt..  If  you lose it you dont get it back.

 

 Best thing that comes out of  this  2k might  can make a football game  again Smiley Happy

 

 

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They aren't losing that much, since EA just barely opened up a new studio in L.A. and hiring almost the same amount of people they fired.

 

 

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They aren't losing that much, since EA just barely opened up a new studio in L.A. and hiring almost the same amount of people they fired.

 

 



Excuse my french they're  a bunch  of "silly arse clowns"  ...  you dont go  hiring folks   when your  laying folks off it  counter productive.. Not only that is disrespectful and humulating those guys.

 

 It like saying we cant pay you guys any more  but we can pay these new  guys over here. What kinda of crap is that??.. Ea is  ok  and alot nice people work over there but..  I cant  stand the policy they do and hope they do  go under or  reform the  whole dang place called ea.

 

I see alot  of video game companies are making board games  now and not video games anymore..  I think thes compnaies need to learn never  sell 100%  of your company  never.. Alwys  have a way to  keep your company name. They layed 1200 people  and more layoff are coming.  In my opinion is it  disrespectful to open ananother  studio  when closing them,, if your going to  do that atleast do it quietly..

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I never understood all the hate for online passes, sorry. When you buy a game new, you get the online pass for free - you don't pay extra. Devs/pubs make no money on used game sales, so why shouldn't they make a little back with online passes for those that choose not to go through them for their copy of the game? It makes perfect business sense. I don't get why people feel entitled to a full gameplay experience if they're buying a used game for cheap.


But what if you wanted to sell a game? Thanks to the online pass, you wouldn't get as much money back. People sell games they don't want anymore to make buying new copies less of a hassle. Basically, used games can be good for the industry. Yes, if someone buys a used copy, the publishers and developers don't get money, but what if a game is expected to sell 2 million copies, but only 5 hundred thousand are sold? You want to point your finger at used game buyers when there can only be a maximum of 5 hundred thousand used copies for sale? Here's some math: 500,000 + 500,000 = 1,000,000. Are online passes going to help that game succeed? No. In fact, they make me want to stay away from it. The only game with an online pass I ever bought was Uncharted 3, and that's not changing, unless I get a game when it's under $30.

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I never understood all the hate for online passes, sorry. When you buy a game new, you get the online pass for free - you don't pay extra. Devs/pubs make no money on used game sales, so why shouldn't they make a little back with online passes for those that choose not to go through them for their copy of the game? It makes perfect business sense. I don't get why people feel entitled to a full gameplay experience if they're buying a used game for cheap.


So did you read my OP? While I understand companies wanting to make some money back on used games that are sold. This is an added cost to families that have more than one console and profile. Here's the quote for you, incase you missed it the first time.  

 


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Glad to hear EA did away with it. As a big fan of Battlefield this generation, I didn't buy BF3, because my sons would not have been able to use my copy to play on their paid subscriptions under my roof without having to buy a pass each.

Yeah, I know I could have let them play on my account, but I don't go for that. I paid for 3 360's, 9 years of Live, games for myself and them including some games (Halo Reach/4, GoW2/3, Splinter Cell Conviction, LP2) buying multiple copies to LAN, or just have our own screen. Then they started doing this crap. It was hard to resist BF3. Glad they are dropping this.


Do realize that this is from someone that is coming from a console where I was already paying for XBL for 4 profiles, so for them to add this fee to a game that I already buy new was kind of a slap in the face. Gaming is already expensive, especially if you have a family of gamers. This isn't me sharing with friends that live in the neighborhood. And letting my kids play on my profile isn't an option, when I'm using it to play something else.

 

BTW, I don't think this would bother me so much if I wasn't already paying for a service (XBL) to play online in the first place. But still feel like doing so because of people that buy used is punishing families that buy new.

 

This is just my opinion, and I'm only trying to show you another point of view. A point of view from a family man who's gamed from the late 70's in the arcade's dropping nickels/quarters/tokens, built my own PC, played on all the major consoles/handhelds, built my own OC'd H2O SLI PC with nothing but a little research and a love of gaming. I know you didn't need all that, but I felt like having a soapbox moment. Smiley Very Happy

 

Guess we just have to decide what's important to us, and I decided despite the Battlefield franchise being my favorite this generation, I wouldn't buy BF3 for myself if my boys couldn't enjoy it on their profiles also. Glad I didn't, since it may have helped in EA's decision to stop using them.

 

We could also say, "Make a game worth having at launch, that doesn't have day 1 patches", and you won't have to worry about people buying used. I just thought I'd throw that out there. lol.

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xClayMeow wrote:

I never understood all the hate for online passes, sorry. When you buy a game new, you get the online pass for free - you don't pay extra. Devs/pubs make no money on used game sales, so why shouldn't they make a little back with online passes for those that choose not to go through them for their copy of the game? It makes perfect business sense. I don't get why people feel entitled to a full gameplay experience if they're buying a used game for cheap.


But what if you wanted to sell a game? Thanks to the online pass, you wouldn't get as much money back. People sell games they don't want anymore to make buying new copies less of a hassle. Basically, used games can be good for the industry. Yes, if someone buys a used copy, the publishers and developers don't get money, but what if a game is expected to sell 2 million copies, but only 5 hundred thousand are sold? You want to point your finger at used game buyers when there can only be a maximum of 5 hundred thousand used copies for sale? Here's some math: 500,000 + 500,000 = 1,000,000. Are online passes going to help that game succeed? No. In fact, they make me want to stay away from it. The only game with an online pass I ever bought was Uncharted 3, and that's not changing, unless I get a game when it's under $30.


So then wait to buy games when they're on sale so the dev/pub still gets money. Used games are not good for the industry, sorry. Never have been, never will be. The only industry that used games help is the retail industry, namely GameStop. That's pure profit for them. I personally would rather see my money go to the pubs/devs in the hope it supports future development rather than to GS's CEO.

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