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Jun 09 2013
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High Level sets

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So the other day I was perusing the forums and came across a KC thread. For the most part the general consensus was that confirms should be removed for one reason or another, none of which I found wholly reasonable but to each his own. I got into a lengthy debate with a proponent of anti confirms and he raised some valid points and brought a new perspective to the fore. Long story short though for the most part people seemed to have issues building a solid defense and punishing those confirms. This thread's purpose will be to expound on some of the strategies used in the matches and hopefully provide a resource the community can draw on. They are not confirms - centric so other strategies will be discussed, it will also be ongoing so as to just generally add to the resource on a weekly basis.

 

Most matches have been taken from Deven3000's stream. http://www.twitch.tv/deven3000 - He hosts every Wednesday at 5 pm and some other days as well though the only day set in stone is Wednesday. Check his schedule for more details.

 

Also if you are interested in high level competition head over to http://aylasplace.enjin.com/chatroom. Tournaments, rankings, the works.

 

Some of the sets will either just be a general 3 stock match, or best of 3. It varies

 

 

Here is a directory of the sets under character headings, full credit goes out to SROVRSTRM for getting this done, all his work and is in my debt for doing so. Thanks SR.

 

BOLD = the character under the heading won their match

 

Kratos

- Swagturtle vs. Vizion (1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k7eBD2rygc

- Blender vs. CJhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_yMD6sg6Zg

- Swagturtle vs. Vizion (2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYqCZ36zjbg

- Swagturtle vs. Dom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gGcO1e86V0

- Blender vs. Potato http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwCZkG-JDOA

- Swagturtle vs. Bluehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mTIYC8JZja4#at=192

- Swagturtle vs. Vizion (3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WUQijXePg7k#at=226

- Swagturtle vs. Bladehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DLBpBAF4qlk

 

Parappa

- Smash vs. Crashb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5C8pWxbFlE

- Smash vs. Heroic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg8qGF9nkHo

- Smash vs. Iggy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke4Dsp5AxcU

- Smash vs. Foxx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTQziPhasWg

- Smash vs. Devenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyGDueR-h2I

- Smash vs. Marcushttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X53C00OFJn4

- Smash vs. Ramenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TSgo45eMCQ

- Smash vs. Mayo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrxFqAdzmGQ

- Patch vs. Solid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_uiRmKnYcU

- Patch vs. Domhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0AfsRXJScM

- Patch vs. Vizion http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ygr4zLXult0

- Smash vs. Dom http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fWstpkihBM0

 

Fat Peach

- Iggy vs. Devenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7ltQ-JzNag

- Iggy vs. Smashhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke4Dsp5AxcU

- Lakeshow vs. Solidhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruOdV6M_diA

- Lakeshow vs. Jushthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc9-5_oUjmw

- Dabuz vs. Solidhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6u6uLzmnQU

- Iggy vs. Blue http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tWryJEKUGd0

- Dabuz vs. Ragna http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NTfxikd_RRE

 

[Iggy’s Stream]

 

- Vs. Vizion http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ju4nXESsakQ

- Vs. Ramenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EkrcmNwqQ1I

- Vs. Potatohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tojBZL98SbE

- Vs. AGhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PymXRANY1pc

- With LES vs. Ramen & Crashb http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_p2nVp78S3g

 

Sweet Tooth

- Potato vs. Dom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmnWfllKQls

- Potato vs. Dabuz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfXAiDaa8b4

- Potato vs. Blenderhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwCZkG-JDOA

- Potato vs. Bluehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZFEr_-CzTk

- Potato vs. Iggy http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tojBZL98SbE

 

Radec

- Funcrazy vs. Overstrum http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4BHWgteKrU

- Liquid vs. Vizion http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=w3iCaIQgGvY

 

Sly

- Deven vs. Vizion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEx9kVVIcs8

- Heroic vs. Smashhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg8qGF9nkHo

- Heroic vs. Ramenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKQlxbp1PFg

- Deven vs. Iggy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7ltQ-JzNag

- Deven vs. Mayo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPdvehlkvzc

- Deven vs. Smash http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyGDueR-h2I

- John vs. Ramenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8RStKBGqkE

- Deven vs. Dom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50sNJjNEeRk

- John vs. Mac http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvbmWRiyp0A

- Deven vs. Gintahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dpJVt4h0uU0

- Deven vs. CJ http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eZtpK5kXmI0

- Mac vs. Blue http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=V91hUD9G3jE

 

Drake

- Solid vs. Lakeshow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruOdV6M_diA

- Salj vs. Soondragon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCGQU7C9mbY

- Solid vs. Mayo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA2QgW0jO8w

- Solid vs. Dabuz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6u6uLzmnQU

- Solid vs. Patchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_uiRmKnYcU

- RDK vs. RJhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaJON-9iW3k

- Wi2 vs. Ramen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA502mv-WQo

 

Good Cole

- Vizion vs. Dom (1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNk9aWzjNwE

- Vizion vs. Dom (2)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObQadn7CWOs

- Vizion vs. Ragna http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM9Sgi8pUjo

- Sith vs. Vizion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhF2SRyT2p0

- Vizion vs. Swagturtle (1)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k7eBD2rygc

- Vizion vs. Dom (3)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeEThwzQhtw

- Vizion vs. Swagturtle (2)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYqCZ36zjbg

- Marcus vs. Smash http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X53C00OFJn4

- Vizion vs. Impacthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOzixA-OajM

- Marcus vs. O9 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzJLb_c6Xm0

- Vizion vs. Iggyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ju4nXESsakQ

- Marcus vs. Ramenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0J_EYBsOAho

- Vizion vs. Patch http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ygr4zLXult0

- Vizion vs. Swagturtle (3)http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WUQijXePg7k#at=226

 

Evil Cole

- LT vs. Vizion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWbCCiAznEU

- Dabuz vs. Jushthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSUXi05sAEk

- Dabuz vs. Potatohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfXAiDaa8b4

 

Ratchet

- Vizion vs. Ramenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7TsVpzvhhk

- Vizion vs. O9 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbABct6PCSI

- Vizion vs. Ragna http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM9Sgi8pUjo

- Vizion vs. LThttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWbCCiAznEU

- Vizion vs. Sithhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhF2SRyT2p0

- AG vs. Iggy http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PymXRANY1pc

- Vizion vs. Liquidhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=w3iCaIQgGvY

 

Jak

- LES & Iggy vs. Ramen & Crashb http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_p2nVp78S3g

 

Big Daddy

- Dom vs. O9 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWnkMgpu-v4

- Dom vs. Vizion (1)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNk9aWzjNwE

- Dom vs. Vizion (2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObQadn7CWOs

- Dom vs. Impact (1)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKIjcz5c8kQ

- Dom vs. Vizion (3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeEThwzQhtw

- Dom vs. Swagturtlehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gGcO1e86V0

- Dom vs. Potatohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmnWfllKQls

- Dom vs. Impact (2)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlSmw1dp5PE

- Dom vs. Patch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0AfsRXJScM

- Ramen vs. John http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8RStKBGqkE

- Dom vs. Devenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50sNJjNEeRk

- Dom vs. Smashhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fWstpkihBM0

 

Dante

- Foxx vs. Smashhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTQziPhasWg

- Foxx vs. Impacthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBtexv85xeA

- Ays vs. Impact http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HApYkgYpY4A

- Foxx vs. BChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kekbDzRhtVc

- Ays vs. Jmag http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gr-qJzAshMs

 

Nariko

- Vizion vs. Devenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEx9kVVIcs8

- Jusht vs. Lakeshow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc9-5_oUjmw

- Jusht vs. Dabuz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSUXi05sAEk

- Blue vs. Ramen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeQIX-9OHbo

- Blue vs. Potato http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZFEr_-CzTk

- Blue vs. Machttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=V91hUD9G3jE

- Blue vs. Swagturtle http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mTIYC8JZja4#at=192

- Blue vs. Iggy http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tWryJEKUGd0

 

Heihachi

- CJ vs. Blender http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_yMD6sg6Zg

- Soondragon vs. Saljhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCGQU7C9mbY

- CJ vs. Devenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eZtpK5kXmI0

 

Raiden

- Ragna vs. Vizion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM9Sgi8pUjo

- Alexi vs. Overstrumhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W5b5EeOERs

- BC vs. Foxx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kekbDzRhtVc

- Nduk vs. O9 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiF_THBCSGo

- Solar vs. Ginta http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2HxJn7IAKvQ

- Ragna vs. Dabuz http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NTfxikd_RRE

 

Sackboy
- O9 vs. Dom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWnkMgpu-v4

- Ramen vs. Vizion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7TsVpzvhhk
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O9 vs. Vizionhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbABct6PCSI

- Crashb vs. Smashhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5C8pWxbFlE

- Ramen vs. Vinhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVwa8TSgTuY

- Ramen vs. Heroic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKQlxbp1PFg

- Ramen vs. Funcrazy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa2OW-tT_7c

- Impact vs. Funcrazy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcwtjbD-f2A

- Crashb vs. Mayohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMS_eOXHYzA

- Ramen vs. Smash http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TSgo45eMCQ

- Ramen vs. Bluehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeQIX-9OHbo

- Ramen vs. Wi2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA502mv-WQo

- O9 vs. Marcushttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzJLb_c6Xm0

- O9 vs. Ndukhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiF_THBCSGo

- Ramen vs. Iggy http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EkrcmNwqQ1I

- Ramen & Crashb vs. LES and Iggy http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_p2nVp78S3g

- Ramen vs. Marcus http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0J_EYBsOAho

- Ginta vs. Deven http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dpJVt4h0uU0

- Crashb vs. Marcus http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1d737Q_Z0Is

- Ginta vs. Solar http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2HxJn7IAKvQ

 

Sir Dan

 

Spike

- Impact vs. Dom (1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKIjcz5c8kQ

- Overstrum vs. Alexi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W5b5EeOERs

- Impact vs. Foxx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBtexv85xeA

- Impact vs. Vizion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOzixA-OajM

- Impact vs. Dom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlSmw1dp5PE

- Impact vs. Ayshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HApYkgYpY4A

- Overstrum vs. Funcrazy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4BHWgteKrU

- Blade vs. Swagturtle http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DLBpBAF4qlk

 

Toro

- Funcrazy vs. Ramenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa2OW-tT_7c

- Funcrazy vs. Impacthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcwtjbD-f2A

- RJ vs. RDK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaJON-9iW3k

 

Kat (only mirrors allowed on dev stream)

 

Emmett

 

Zeus

- Vin vs. Ramen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVwa8TSgTuY

 

Isaac

- Mayo vs. Devenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPdvehlkvzc

- Mayo vs. Solidhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA2QgW0jO8w

- Mayo vs. Crashb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMS_eOXHYzA

- Mayo vs. Smashhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrxFqAdzmGQ

- Marcus vs. Crashb http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1d737Q_Z0Is

 

 

First match up, DominoSNK vs O9. Probably the best users of their respective character out at the moment, Domino as the challenger made a good stage pick to maximize on his oki game and minimize sack's zoning capabilities. 

 

 

Things to note:

 

Big Daddy's use of super armor to destroy sack's traps

 

Sackboy's repeated attempts to gain favourable spacing, key component of any zoning game.

 

How Domino's stage pick helps to magnify sackboy's disadvantages, including the false walls.

 

O9's tactical awareness by getting successful grabs to maximize on AP gain because of his inability to zone.

 

Domino's tech chasing game to keep sack from zoning.

 

 

As with any good discussion, feel free to add or expound on anything else you have noticed.

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O9 was easily the best Sackboy there, IMO.

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Good match sadly domino glitched and when are the rest of the clips coming today or some other day?
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Agree with jongie 09 is one of the best sackboys by far
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Good match sadly domino glitched and when are the rest of the clips coming today or some other day?

Well I'll be uploading them a little apart but it really depends on how much the thread takes off, if it is a little slow I might upload some a bit faster but I generally would love for some information to be shared and things to get discussed first before I upload the next few, if I upload them too fast it may become too much for people to digest all at once. Idk what do you think?

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Yes that seems like a good idea just anxious to see the other sets from 09 and Ceash so I can I prove and learn how to deal with certain characters
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I have never seen DominoSNK play until now....he is a awesome big daddy player:smileyhappy:
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So am I! Except for the 3 out of 4 matches where I got ridiculously bodied...but hey, who's counting?
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Yes that seems like a good idea just anxious to see the other sets from 09 and Ceash so I can I prove and learn how to deal with certain characters

K no prob, will upload your sets directly after I upload O9s so you can compare and contrast more easily.

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I have never seen DominoSNK play until now....he is a awesome big daddy player:smileyhappy:

Yeah he is, smart choice on his part with the stage pick, really limits sack's zoning abilities and the super armor goes straight through sack's traps. Something you can work into your strategy the next time you play ginta. 

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