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Re: Reason why DLC will always be OPed.

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whats that mean marrow? Kat is insane;ly OP and Isaac is top tier..... Emmet and Zeus are meh but half the DLC is real good. Half is meh or worse..... DLC isnt OP. Only 50% of it so far is recognized as qworth using in 1v1..... zeus makes a good teammate and emmet doesnt even do that.


Kat has a horrible time with a distance game. A good zoner can keep her out. And anyone that knows how to dodge roll can get past her initial kicks and immediately counteract while she's busy. No, she's not OP, people are just stupid and don't know how to get past her. Yes, she has combos. Dante has good combos too, is 'he' OP? Or Nariko, Nariko has a good 80AP combo that people can pull off pretty well, is 'she' OP? (Answer is no on both.)

 

Isaac is also not OP. He's simply good on a lot of areas. He has a moderate distance game, and a moderate close up game. He's not exemplary in both.

 

Emmett is probably the only one out of the three I mentioned that can be considered OP, as his rocket grenades do 30 AP and can be thrown three at a time while the turret is out. His distance game is unbelievably amazing, but people simply don't know how to use it.

 

Zeus on the other hand can possibly be considered OP. Two attacks that can do up to 60 to 70AP, that have super armor, means he can get to Level 1 without  much effort. That being said he has absolutely no ranged game and is required to get in close, and even then he's extremely easy to avoid, and his recovery frames are longer than most of the cast's.

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Zeus is totally managable, and Issac is really good, but with the con of being sluggish which gives him some bad matchups against more agile characters. Aside from a few minor tweaks some characters can use, the worst part of the DLC is that it's just so glitchy.

 


CatatonicAlex wrote:

lol. zeus and emmet are not oped?


Not really, no, both of them have the aspect of having ridiculous AP gain if you blatantly ignore them, but both of them struggle when you're constantly pressuring them with a barrage of attacks, Zeus gets knocked around before he can charge an attack and Emmett is essentially a punching bag when he runs out of ammo for one of his loadouts, don't let him get close to one of those boxes he creates.

 

Practice makes perfect.

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lol marrow lets play... th second someone rolls against kat they die. The best players agree kat is in her own tier... how do u not know this? If you cant beat emmet.. then i dunno

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Re: Reason why DLC will always be OPed.

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Kat isn't in her own tier - people just hate on anything they can't deal with.
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Its called rolling past her. Its called reading your opponent, trying to see what they're going to do next. This is what a fighting game is. It's a constant battle of skill. Yes, she has good combos. Yes, she has great AP gain. She also has some pretty obvious to read supers (Level 3 in particular is pretty hilarious to just keep dodging. Seriously that thing is as easy to dodge as Kratos' Level 3.). You know what she also has? While she can fly through the air pretty fast, did you know you can lock her down? Throws are there for a reason. Anti-airs are there for a reason. If you can force her to be on the ground, she'll likely go into her ground dash. You know what you do then? BLOCK. And then counterattack.

 

Or let her win and whine on the forums.

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lol..... this is silly... you all base everything you know off quick matches... shoha no offense dude but u lack experience against a good kat. Let's see... Kat has safest melee...... great anti air.. best tech chasing and a KC off grab... ya shes not good lol... jesus
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dude, stop using 1v1 as a reason for tiers man,
the game will never be balanced for 1v1s...
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Kat can KC off of all her moves with little to no dedication... im just tired of scrubs saying **bleep** like kat isnt OP... I know **bleep** a fighting game is about marrow... not only have i been playing competitive fighters since theyve been competitive... but ive especially played this game more competitively and serious than u and most people on these forums. Kat covers all her approaches with debri... and tech chases the best out of anyone because of it as well..... You punishing kat like you said is your opponents fault vor not knowing her fully and being far to unsafe.

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lol..... this is silly... you all base everything you know off quick matches... shoha no offense dude but u lack experience against a good kat. Let's see... Kat has safest melee...... great anti air.. best tech chasing and a KC off grab... ya shes not good lol... jesus

I never said she wasn't good.

 

But she's not OP.

 

Why is it that everyone and their dog seems to think they know what OP means? Do you even understand what OP means? OP in All-Stars would mean great, fast attacks, supers that can easily take one or two people with no recovery, a Level 3 that can kill 9 times, very minimal input, and things like that. Kat does not have any of these. She has great AP gain, but horrible supers. She has a lot of precise input in practical gameplay.

 


Top tier does not mean OP.

If you think top tier means OP, you are stupid.

 

Yun was top tier in Street Fighter 4 AE, and I wupped every single one I ever came across with Dan Hibiki. Dan Hibiki is bottom tier.

 

It comes down to player skill, and most people who play All-Stars, being the 85% that ran over here from Call of Duty, have no idea how to play a fighter seriously and therefore complain and whine whenever things don't go their way.

 

When you gather a bunch of stupid people together, they will collaborate and create stupid theories.

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You're using the term 'scrubs' for a party brawler...pretty silly.
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