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Fender Bender
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Re: Reason why DLC will always be OPed.

Mar 26, 2013

Tech chasing is, in technical terms, reading where the opponent will go after getting up from a knocked down state in a roll, or 'chasing' their air recovery.

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Re: Reason why DLC will always be OPed.

Mar 26, 2013
k now oki.... and what charactersd are good at these things and why... lets gewt a little more techincal than terms and see how u do
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Re: Reason why DLC will always be OPed.

Mar 26, 2013

Seriously, kid?

Did you 'seriously' just pull the "ILL FITE YOU" card on me?

You did come from Call of Duty, didn't you.

 

Okay look, playing the game in order to determine who has more skill does not at all solve the argument. The discussion is about whether or not Kat is OP. My argument is that she has good AP gain and good combos, but a small hitbox and has pretty bad supers, with a bad distance game as well. She can't zone, she can only rush down. So what's 'your' argument? That she has good combos?

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Re: Reason why DLC will always be OPed.

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how does she have bad supers..... her level 1 can be combod int out of anything... ur silly... still didnt answer what oki was... and ur wrong about kat completely. She has good combos.... faster melee startup than kratos... a grab KC... best mobility.. projectiles that lead to death and ap burst with level 1... best tech chasing and silly oki game. Her supers by themselves just thrown out randomly are bad sure..... but who cares about that..... people should have stopped doing that ages ago. For the record Call of Duty is the worst FPS on the market even tho the most popular... scrubs are ruling the world... casuals are bringing down gaming for the rest of us. I do however play Halo and Crysis a lot. Other good ones are CS , Farcry and Gotham City Imposters

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Re: Reason why DLC will always be OPed.

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Her LEVEL 1 is good in a 1v1. Did you know that there are also other ways to play the game? Like a FFA? Or a 2v2? I mean, this is  party fighter.

 

Yes, she has the potential to have lots of KCs. Does that make her broken? No. Are you braindead or something? Kill confirm potential only means so much if she can actually pull off the kill 'setup' (That's basically what kill confirms are, misworded kill setups). If she can pull off a kill setup on someone, then that person made a mistake in their gameplay, or they're just plain stupid.

 

Just because she has kill confirms doesn't mean she's the best undenyable character in the game. Her Level 1 is easily avoidable if she doesn't set it up first, and even THEN you can easily avoid the kill setups if you try enough. Ever try jumping? Yeah, jumping actually gets past her throw, her pots, pretty much anything if you're smart enough to figure "Oh hey, she's gonna try kill setups".

 

Again, this is up to player skill. I play Kat. I don't do KC's. I also know that people jump over her attacks. Her Level 2 can be dodged out of, her Level 1 is easily avoidable, and her Level 3 is the third easiest to avoid in the game, with only Kratos and Sir Daniel before.

 

If she was OP, nobody would be able to jump out of the way. But people CAN, and people DO.

 

So I guess, since Dante has a kill confirm thats incredibly difficult to pull off, he's broken too?

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ya its wicked hard to land a debri into level 1... not to mention is she knew u were gonna jump.... u also die. You lack experience against good players and im not saying that to be mean. Do you even know about her wavedash? if you use her second jump down and diagnal and press triangle right b4 she hits the ground she slides across the map while being able to use any attacks while moving essentially. She has aerial superiority and ground superiority... jumping is actually LESS SAFE against her than blocking trying to bate something... which if she plays passiely slightly... wont happen. Shecan kill anyone... from anywhere... with anything

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Re: Reason why DLC will always be OPed.

Mar 26, 2013

Gamers are such babies lol.

NO ONE IS OP. NOT EVVVVVEN KRATOS.

"QUICKLY!"


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Re: Reason why DLC will always be OPed.

Mar 26, 2013

PsYkiiiK wrote:

ya its wicked hard to land a debri into level 1... not to mention is she knew u were gonna jump.... u also die. You lack experience against good players and im not saying that to be mean. Do you even know about her wavedash? if you use her second jump down and diagnal and press triangle right b4 she hits the ground she slides across the map while being able to use any attacks while moving essentially. She has aerial superiority and ground superiority... jumping is actually LESS SAFE against her than blocking trying to bate something... which if she plays passiely slightly... wont happen


Good, she has a wavedash. But she also has a horrible attack range.

She has great mobility, but somewhat bad AP gain.

She has good KC's, but bad supers.

She has good combos, but high AP cost.

 

You see where I'm going with this?

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horrible range? lol. You know her debris is the best projectile in the game right?. as well as 155 ap bursts off of any touch.. ya... bad AP gain. Also she can chain grab out of a ground combo.... know that? If you use anything but her level 1 you're doing it wrong.... its sooo easy to land being as all her attacks are easy to land and lead to it. You know her down square on the ground makes you immune to grabs whle doing it making it the best grab punisher in the game? Did you know that ll her moves can punish you for jumping and lead to death?

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Re: Reason why DLC will always be OPed.

Mar 26, 2013

High AP cost. Her Level 3 is around, what, 500, 600AP? And yeah, she can do 155AP bursts, but you know, those are COMBOS, that most people have to train really hard to do. You can't do them in two hits. You need precision double jumps in order to pull off a lot of them. That takes training.

 

Debris is the best projectile in the game? Uh, no, no it isn't. That goes to either Emmett's rocket launcher (30AP, can hit multiple opponents), Drake's barrel (Low to the ground, can hit multiple opponents), Ratchets sniper (Can be done in the air, good AP gain, stuns), or Radec's sniper (Full screen, good AP.) Kat's debris do 10 AP max and can easily be dodged, and...seriously? It's just as bad as Kratos' arrows. Nobody uses them like ever.

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