PapaWarlock wrote:
TX11 wrote:
im not saying video games are the problem to why people commit these crimes and murder. But i will say why is it that games like this one here even see the light of day. http://www.666gamer.com/play-173-Kindergarten-Killer.html I have been a gamer for over 25 years and when a game like this is made it hurts the industry. If you cannot admit that a game like that can be accessed by anyone without restriction is not hurting society or harming mentally ill children and adults then you really should take a step back and look at things differently. People who already have issues present are very easily influenced by games like this one above. Weather its ten years old or not is not the point. The point that this game was even developed is a disgrace on the gaming community.
Also take a look around that website and you will find countless games that should have never been made. Gamers want to think of games as a form of art but no artist pants a bunch of children getting murdered by crazed idiots.
I don't disagree with you that there are some games that should never be made, should never see the light of day. There are some very hateful games out there and people will use them to release frustrations. I remember ones about Osama Bin Laden after 9/11, ones about Michael Jackson dropping babies out of windows and you had to catch the babies to save them, Elf bowling, there's an RPG based off of Columbine, the list goes on. Extremely distasteful.
But it's never as simple as saying "Yes, this game made this person do that." "This song caused that person to kill these people." People are complex. The reasons people do things are rarely cut and dry. Quite often there are a lot of things that have driven a person to do what they do.
As I've mentioned several times (and will continue to do so) there is a severe mental health crisis in this country. There is also a lack of responsibility in today's society. People would far rather blame someone or something else for the things they do, than simply say "Yeah I did it. So what?" They want to blame their parents, they blame their co-workers, they blame the tobacco companies, they blame music, they blame the bullies, they blame this that and the other. But they don't take responsibility. In the end, no matter what is said or done, only You can control what You do. No one forces you to do anything. You might feel like there are no choices, you might feel forced, but you ultimately make the choice to do something. If you're willing to take action, then you need to be wiling to deal with the consequence (good or bad) for what you do.
i think it fall on parenting aswell and also moral values and likes. Alot of parents out here are smoking and drinking with there kids giving them condoms to have sex. A condom is not going to stop herpes or body scabbies... Its the complex of the person thinking ways which agree with you..
Some people have a moral value and others do not. They see video games as fun and others really will go try it for fun . I Know a few guys who never tried to skate board till the game "skate" came out. Alot game are buisness marketing tools, publication of something else, people can identify with or acustom too seeing everyday. Thats what i mean games are getting too realistic.. You can actually buy the clothes in "skate 2 " video game. Other types of games it will be custom made type of thing.
i remember when nothing but shooters was flooding the market and still are.? Alot saw nothing but shooters in the market with volent games gameplay for sake of income. The dev and publisher goes with what hot and sell at the time.? does it effect the buyer, i think so to a extent.>? Video games are broken down by genre not popularity.. This is why gamers dont know what a real rpg/jrpg or platformer looks like or plays like becuase they just popluate the market with one type and violence of gore of popularity. When you have devs who get desprate to compete and who see these feature as the overall best, they say "im going to add it here". They start mixing genre's, ok nothing with that but theres is a fine line with it and when they start throwing" the core" out. What made these gamers a fan to start with of the game. Thats where my problem lye. i dont think adding more violence and etc to the game make it better, just for sake of popluarity or sales.
I dont agree with adding burnout type of racing to ridge racer franchise will solve any problems for them. Just becuase its popluar dnt make it right, also your selling violence for sake of profit becuase ridge racer is not a voilent game, it was not about wreck-it to a scrap heap.It was about fast controlled speeding and drifting with techniques. I understand burnout is about awsome wrecks and etc , nothing wrong with that, its not everybody cup of tea.
One thing i understand, people adapt to things that make them comfortable. Im confortable playing this game genre becuase it different i can identify with it, but this over here this other genre is not my thing. So when you have a dev who just changes it , it kills gaming and the gamer identity some what. People like to be original.. or bragging rights. they dont to say "oh we have that too" to get better. they want the dev to use the core and add things that improve" the core" without neglecting it.
It might be part of there (gamers) moral value likes or a escape to them in some kind of way . but they can identify themselves with that game and the genre. let me you a example. the game flower is moving flower peddles to motion andmusic. nothing violent about that game. But lets say they add storms and thunder rain and etc too. Does that hurt the gme, no it doesnt it intrigue the buyer and fan base it improves the core of that game which move in motion with a flower. Now lets they add blood and guts and etc splatting all over the screen, murder yells and hollar of help.. Now that upset the fan base. it would be wth? it goes away from the core
Becuase they can identify themselves what with flower and how it works, the calmness, purity might part of their hidden character as a person. If they want silent hill and fratal frame gore, they would buy it. Just becuase a person like gore doesnt make them mentally ill, im just saying they can identty themselve with it somewhat they enjoy the rush the excitment.. Now lets take mystery out of silent hill and creppy noises and add flower like melody to it and everybody happy, the zombies are giving rides to the esacape with a rainbow parade for the children .. And the dev say they added hese thing's becuase its poplaur. How would alot feel? whould you buy that next edition
Let say all devs change all their games to flower like game all positive no gore, no death, shooting or killing.. would alot still be a gamer? Or would alot get angry over it.. I say with 100% certainity will alot will get angry over, becuase they can identify themselves some with the brand. Not in mentally ill way but in some kind of way or outlet in their character. as person. which lead to my points when devs flood the market with so many violent games, you create an identity for some one, which is true.. same goes for music, art etc etc.
Im not anti violent in gaming nor sayin bann all violence in games. im saying gaming is being to one wayed and they're neglecting genre alot of them posittive in gaming and uplifting, adding to much to games to draw a audience the majority of the times its a violent act.
Im not saying take the blade of hades out god of war games and replace with pillows and when its hit a bad guy in god of war they get bible preaching degrees, and kratos go all over the game making it positive and holy.. That would upset the fan base , becuase they can indentfy themselve with kratos, the take no crap attitude and " im going overcome this challlnge no matter how hard for the betterment of myself" which is postive thing..It does not have to be about the gore and killing part it can be small that postive part of what kratos does and gow is about that bring gamers in.. They can idnentity themesleves with it, nothing negative/wrong with that.
Some gamers gain courage/confidence from krato's demeanor, its make them betters in a way. This is why a few buy god of war, it has nothig to do with the out ragous gore and etc. But another gaming dev might not see it from that angle/perspective. they see it from "hey let have gore to its max like gow".. And they say if they if like gow come play our game now we changed it, its 100 times more gore than god of war" To me thats wrong, your selling violence and violating the principles of gaming, and also what made the customer a customer for your starting franchise
, its destroying the genre and gaming some what, bring the wrong type of attention to gaming.
That where my problem lye and relate to society. Gamer build a indenty with games.. Some guys have bought cars off gt franchise games and some guy have bought guns off cod game and some gamer have bought flowers becuase saw them in flower the video game. They loved it the can identify themselves with it in some kind of way.. I think that where the parent comes in and let child know, and show them other games.. if they can buy god of war they can buy them sly coopper, they can buy them hamsterball, flower.
Teach them other genres let have more taste dont let them become menatlly a ttached to a violent game gerne and nothing but violent games. Show them a balance of gaming and positivity.. I think they will be better for it also gaming.
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