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Re: PS Plus on PS4

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It's only MULTIPLAYER online you have to have PS+ for. Regular online should still be free (I think).


I think so. since publishers can choose if they force you to get PS+ for Online Multiplayer or not

 

but notices something... 

 

Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn. it's a upcoming massively multiplayer online role-playing game coming on PC, PS3 and PS4!

 

IS IT GOING TO BE FREE BECAUSE IT'S A MMORPG TITLE which you go online only. will it have a same fate with...Online Pass


The game service for Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn, is not free.

 

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/product/

 

Scroll down on the page, and look at the service fees area.


so that mean you need PS+ just to play FFXIV on a upcoming PS4 console? that's a bit unfair for a MMORPG title. doesn't make any sense

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Re: PS Plus on PS4

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xMINDBlIlURx wrote:

That's your personal opinion.

But it's been stated several times already, in many complaint threads such as this on why it's being enhanced.

Better servers, better game experience, overall good quality that we don't have on the PS3.


Which would have been the natural progression of the PSN anyways, you seriously can't compare the PSN of 2006 to the one of today. In order to survive and compete the PSN has to be an ever-evolving service. So putting up the natural progression of a service as an excuse for making the PSN not free on the PS4 is ridiculous.

 


These are one of these debates, where you don't like others not agreeing with you.

So I'm just back out now, and leave you with something.

Either learn to accept that this is the way our future of Sony is, or continue playing on the PS3 for ever long the servers stay up.

 

Besides, not everything will be pay to play. I believe I read that it's mostly up the developer, but honestly..is it really that much to spend 50 dollars on a year suscription? We're talking a year, without having to worry about paying monthly, seems like a good deal to me.

 

 

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Does it ever occur to you that they just can't offer it for free anymore.. With everything they are adding to the psn+ service on the ps4 , it would honestly surprise me if they were still able to offer online multiplayer for free...


Look your really beating a dead horse here. Look not everyone shares your views here. So you are not going to convince anyone here. So I would suggest that you move on.

Steam is going to have a couple of updates throughout the rest of the year that will make it on par with what the PSN will offer later this year on the PS4 all for free. So like I have been saying before, a question that you guys seem to be ignoring is if competing services can still remain to be free and still offer the same features why can't Sony keep doing that with the PSN?

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al2009man wrote:

I wanted to resolve my confusion with PS+ required to play ONLINE MULTIPLAYER

 

Since Publishers can allows if they want their game to be free without PS+ or not (Mostly Online only/FREE-TO-PLAY) games such as DC Universe Online, Planetsiders 2, Warframe)

 

as i last replyed about Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn, DO I NEED PS+ JUST TO PLAY THIS GAME ONCE ITS OUT ON PS4 VERSION? if so. then it's confirmed. Publishers can choose to make it total free or require PS+

 

Here's the list that uses Online Pass in the past-current (if Wikipedia still have all the list so far)


505 Games
Activision
D3Publisher
Electronic Arts (2010-2013) 
Sony Computer Entertainment (2011-2013)
THQ (-2013)
Ubisoft
Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment

 

since PS4 needs Plus to play online multiplayer...i say its going to be like Online Pass...expect you need PS Plus for it Smiley Tongue


I don't know if there is a PS4 version of FF14, but if there is it most likely would not require a PS Plus sub to play it.


It was announced for a PS4 Port (if you're talking about "A Realm Reborn" One) during the E3 2013/Crystal's Cal trailer 

 

In a very end of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHnxfrvgdqw&feature=share&list=PL0230435155E08820 (skip to 4:42)

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cross12095 wrote:

xMINDBlIlURx wrote:

That's your personal opinion.

But it's been stated several times already, in many complaint threads such as this on why it's being enhanced.

Better servers, better game experience, overall good quality that we don't have on the PS3.


Which would have been the natural progression of the PSN anyways, you seriously can't compare the PSN of 2006 to the one of today. In order to survive and compete the PSN has to be an ever-evolving service. So putting up the natural progression of a service as an excuse for making the PSN not free on the PS4 is ridiculous.

 

You pretty much just answered why PS+ is required now. No offence to you personally, but you and everyone else who argues over/defends this topic are now what I call: a "Self-Entitled Gamer". Things change people, it is time to get used to it.

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Re: PS Plus on PS4

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xMINDBlIlURx wrote:

cross12095 wrote:

xMINDBlIlURx wrote:

That's your personal opinion.

But it's been stated several times already, in many complaint threads such as this on why it's being enhanced.

Better servers, better game experience, overall good quality that we don't have on the PS3.


Which would have been the natural progression of the PSN anyways, you seriously can't compare the PSN of 2006 to the one of today. In order to survive and compete the PSN has to be an ever-evolving service. So putting up the natural progression of a service as an excuse for making the PSN not free on the PS4 is ridiculous.

 


These are one of these debates, where you don't like others not agreeing with you.

So I'm just back out now, and leave you with something.

Either learn to accept that this is the way our future of Sony is, or continue playing on the PS3 for ever long the servers stay up.

 

Besides, not everything will be pay to play. I believe I read that it's mostly up the developer, but honestly..is it really that much to spend 50 dollars on a year suscription? We're talking a year, without having to worry about paying monthly, seems like a good deal to me.

 

 


No I'm just stating the fact, the reasons Sony has come out with for putting online play behind a PS Plus subscription is just pure BS. Yes keeping the PSN up & running costs $$$ but they have been able to offer the service for free for almost 7 years now while making it profitable. 

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Re: PS Plus on PS4

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al2009man wrote:

xMINDBlIlURx wrote:

al2009man wrote:

CradleOfFish wrote:

It's only MULTIPLAYER online you have to have PS+ for. Regular online should still be free (I think).


I think so. since publishers can choose if they force you to get PS+ for Online Multiplayer or not

 

but notices something... 

 

Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn. it's a upcoming massively multiplayer online role-playing game coming on PC, PS3 and PS4!

 

IS IT GOING TO BE FREE BECAUSE IT'S A MMORPG TITLE which you go online only. will it have a same fate with...Online Pass


The game service for Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn, is not free.

 

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/product/

 

Scroll down on the page, and look at the service fees area.


so that mean you need PS+ just to play FFXIV on a upcoming PS4 console? that's a bit unfair for a MMORPG title. doesn't make any sense


No word on anything about PS4 release, there's not even a date yet. I'm sure that'll come early next year. But it depends on the developer, so we'll have to see what happens then. 

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Jul 8, 2013

If your a gamer without PS Plus you're doing it wrong.

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cross12095 wrote:

No I'm just stating the fact, the reasons Sony has come out with for putting online play behind a PS Plus subscription is just pure BS. Yes keeping the PSN up & running costs $$$ but they have been able to offer the service for free for almost 7 years now while making it profitable. 

Fail.

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kisuma1 wrote:

cross12095 wrote:

xMINDBlIlURx wrote:

That's your personal opinion.

But it's been stated several times already, in many complaint threads such as this on why it's being enhanced.

Better servers, better game experience, overall good quality that we don't have on the PS3.


Which would have been the natural progression of the PSN anyways, you seriously can't compare the PSN of 2006 to the one of today. In order to survive and compete the PSN has to be an ever-evolving service. So putting up the natural progression of a service as an excuse for making the PSN not free on the PS4 is ridiculous.

 

You pretty much just answered why PS+ is required now. No offence to you personally, but you and everyone else who argues over/defends this topic are now what I call: a "Self-Entitled Gamer". Things change people, it is time to get used to it.


 Are you complaining about PSN or PSN Plus?  Because PSN will still be free on PS4, just not the multilayer online thing. You will still be able to access almost every app for free (even though you need to pay for Netflix and Hulu and such but that is payment to those companies not Sony.).

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