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Re: PlayStation Exclusives!

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,Steppy76 wrote:

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,eggsampull wrote:

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,Loving Live wrote:

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,battousai_asane wrote:
Forza....FORZA!!!  Dude, that game SUCKS compared to Gran Turismo....man.... ,

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Really lets me pull the top ten racers this gen and see if your right.

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 1. Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec  PS2  SCEA  76  8.7 93.6% 94.3%
 2. Burnout 3: Takedown  XBOX  EA Games  71  8.9 92.1% 93.4%
 3. Burnout 3: Takedown  PS2  EA Games  50  8.8 93.4% 93.4%
 4. Forza Motorsport  XBOX  Microsoft Game Studios  60  8.5 93.2% 93.1%
 5. Project Gotham Racing 2  XBOX  Microsoft Game Studios  84  8.6 92.2% 93.0%
 6. Mario Kart Super Circuit  GBA  Nintendo  43  8.6 90.9% 92.2%
 7. Crash Team Racing  PS  SCEA  33  8.3 90.6% 91.7%
 8. Gran Turismo 2  PS  SCEA  21  8.6 90.6% 91.3%
 9. Crazy Taxi  DC  Sega  42  8.0 90.1% 90.2%
 10. Wipeout Pure  PSP  SCEA  47  8.0 88.9% 89.6%
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ops I don't see GT4 I guess it sucks fanboy

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YOU ARE A DUMBASS... You bash everyone and say that sales mean nothing then you talk about scores... SCORES FROM OTHER PEOPLE, SO I GUESS WHAT EVERYONE ELSE SAYS IS IMPORTANT... You like to call people fanboys, but all you do is say xbox games are better... You are the fanboy. I guess everyone who doesn't buy every system and every game is a fanboy, anyone who likes one system more than another is a fanboy as well. Let me put it this way, I have $150.00 should I buy an Xbox, or a Ps2... Ps2 has faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar better exclusives, so I'll buy the ps2, guess that makes me a fanboy becuase I like more than a couple of high quality games.
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No, the choice of a PS2 is not what makes you a fanboy...it's the next line "becuase I like more than a couple of high quality games." that does. ,

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Ok, what system has more higher quality games, better exclusives according to the average gamer... Answer that, it won't be the xbox. Ps2 has better exclusives, and more of them point blank.
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Re: PlayStation Exclusives!

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well the ratings isnt everything I say IGN ranked 70% a the guy game ( and men this game is abysmal so)

and again is titanic the best movie?
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Loving Live you have just been owned 3 ways till monday, I mean  70%!!!!!!!!! I saw them talking about this on tv, it's a game where you answer questions and girls take off their tops if you are right, and IGN gave it a 70 lol, just goes to show you that IGN doesn't know anything. It's like 3 times as expensive as a porno with 1/5 of the nudity lol, yea, ratings mean everythin. By the way your argument about ratings is yet again dumb becuase Titanic was one of the most popular movies of all time in terms of sales... AS WELL AS REVIEWS... ,

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What does IGN have to do with anything.  the scores he's showing are Averages of MANY MANY sites.  Not that it makes it "proof", but you seem to be insinuating that he's using strictly IGN scores, which he is not.

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So he's not, but those average scores are meaningless becuase some of the games are tenths of a number away from being a "better" game than others.
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Re: PlayStation Exclusives!

Jun 28, 2005


Loving Live wrote:


Ero Senin wrote:
well the ratings isnt everything I say IGN ranked 70% a the guy game ( and men this game is abysmal so)

and again is titanic the best movie?



The,point is you make a statement and can't back it up. I make one and,bring proof. XBOX has Three GOTY in 4 Years PS2 has none in 5 years


Uh? from what source?
,btw, rankings arnt everything
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Re: PlayStation Exclusives!

Jun 28, 2005

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,eggsampull wrote:

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,Steppy76 wrote:

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,eggsampull wrote:

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,Loving Live wrote:

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,battousai_asane wrote:
Forza....FORZA!!!  Dude, that game SUCKS compared to Gran Turismo....man.... ,

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Really lets me pull the top ten racers this gen and see if your right.

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 1. Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec  PS2  SCEA  76  8.7 93.6% 94.3%
 2. Burnout 3: Takedown  XBOX  EA Games  71  8.9 92.1% 93.4%
 3. Burnout 3: Takedown  PS2  EA Games  50  8.8 93.4% 93.4%
 4. Forza Motorsport  XBOX  Microsoft Game Studios  60  8.5 93.2% 93.1%
 5. Project Gotham Racing 2  XBOX  Microsoft Game Studios  84  8.6 92.2% 93.0%
 6. Mario Kart Super Circuit  GBA  Nintendo  43  8.6 90.9% 92.2%
 7. Crash Team Racing  PS  SCEA  33  8.3 90.6% 91.7%
 8. Gran Turismo 2  PS  SCEA  21  8.6 90.6% 91.3%
 9. Crazy Taxi  DC  Sega  42  8.0 90.1% 90.2%
 10. Wipeout Pure  PSP  SCEA  47  8.0 88.9% 89.6%
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ops I don't see GT4 I guess it sucks fanboy

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YOU ARE A DUMBASS... You bash everyone and say that sales mean nothing then you talk about scores... SCORES FROM OTHER PEOPLE, SO I GUESS WHAT EVERYONE ELSE SAYS IS IMPORTANT... You like to call people fanboys, but all you do is say xbox games are better... You are the fanboy. I guess everyone who doesn't buy every system and every game is a fanboy, anyone who likes one system more than another is a fanboy as well. Let me put it this way, I have $150.00 should I buy an Xbox, or a Ps2... Ps2 has faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar better exclusives, so I'll buy the ps2, guess that makes me a fanboy becuase I like more than a couple of high quality games.
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No, the choice of a PS2 is not what makes you a fanboy...it's the next line "becuase I like more than a couple of high quality games." that does. ,

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Ok, what system has more higher quality games, better exclusives according to the average gamer... Answer that, it won't be the xbox. Ps2 has better exclusives, and more of them point blank.

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It's going to depend on who you ask.  What determines "high quality"?  What are you gonna use as proof, since gamerankings seems to be unacceptable?  If you do allow gamerankings average scores to be used, you also have to look at the timeframe, as back in 2001, 2002, the PS2 had way more games coming out and had more better games and more crappy ones...as time has gone on, the list of exclusives has shrunk dramatically for the PS2(as more and more developers have gone to supporting MS...most games nowdays come out on both systems), and for the past couple years the number of high quality games is pretty much identical between the two systems(just like the number of more games to come out for the PS2 over the Xbox in a given timeframe has also shrunk to almost nothing now).  

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The ps2 has 35 games rated a 9 or higher according to the average ratings on gamerankings.com.  The Xbox has 17.  18 of those games for the PS2 came out in 2000(1), 2001(10), 2002(7).  2 of the Xbox's come from the period ending in 2002...2001(1) 2002(1).  That means that since 2003 to now, the PS2 has had 17 games average a 9 from reviews to the Xbox's 15.  So for the past 2.5 years, the number of "great" games between the two systems is virutally identical...now, you were saying about a "couple" quality Xbox games?

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Re: PlayStation Exclusives!

Jun 28, 2005

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,Steppy76 wrote:

,
,
,eggsampull wrote:

,
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,Steppy76 wrote:

,
,
,eggsampull wrote:

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,Loving Live wrote:

,
,
,battousai_asane wrote:
Forza....FORZA!!!  Dude, that game SUCKS compared to Gran Turismo....man.... ,

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,
,


Really lets me pull the top ten racers this gen and see if your right.

,
 1. Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec  PS2  SCEA  76  8.7 93.6% 94.3%
 2. Burnout 3: Takedown  XBOX  EA Games  71  8.9 92.1% 93.4%
 3. Burnout 3: Takedown  PS2  EA Games  50  8.8 93.4% 93.4%
 4. Forza Motorsport  XBOX  Microsoft Game Studios  60  8.5 93.2% 93.1%
 5. Project Gotham Racing 2  XBOX  Microsoft Game Studios  84  8.6 92.2% 93.0%
 6. Mario Kart Super Circuit  GBA  Nintendo  43  8.6 90.9% 92.2%
 7. Crash Team Racing  PS  SCEA  33  8.3 90.6% 91.7%
 8. Gran Turismo 2  PS  SCEA  21  8.6 90.6% 91.3%
 9. Crazy Taxi  DC  Sega  42  8.0 90.1% 90.2%
 10. Wipeout Pure  PSP  SCEA  47  8.0 88.9% 89.6%
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ops I don't see GT4 I guess it sucks fanboy

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YOU ARE A DUMBASS... You bash everyone and say that sales mean nothing then you talk about scores... SCORES FROM OTHER PEOPLE, SO I GUESS WHAT EVERYONE ELSE SAYS IS IMPORTANT... You like to call people fanboys, but all you do is say xbox games are better... You are the fanboy. I guess everyone who doesn't buy every system and every game is a fanboy, anyone who likes one system more than another is a fanboy as well. Let me put it this way, I have $150.00 should I buy an Xbox, or a Ps2... Ps2 has faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar better exclusives, so I'll buy the ps2, guess that makes me a fanboy becuase I like more than a couple of high quality games.
,
,

No, the choice of a PS2 is not what makes you a fanboy...it's the next line "becuase I like more than a couple of high quality games." that does. ,

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,

,
Ok, what system has more higher quality games, better exclusives according to the average gamer... Answer that, it won't be the xbox. Ps2 has better exclusives, and more of them point blank.

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It's going to depend on who you ask.  What determines "high quality"?  What are you gonna use as proof, since gamerankings seems to be unacceptable?  If you do allow gamerankings average scores to be used, you also have to look at the timeframe, as back in 2001, 2002, the PS2 had way more games coming out and had more better games and more crappy ones...as time has gone on, the list of exclusives has shrunk dramatically for the PS2(as more and more developers have gone to supporting MS...most games nowdays come out on both systems), and for the past couple years the number of high quality games is pretty much identical between the two systems(just like the number of more games to come out for the PS2 over the Xbox in a given timeframe has also shrunk to almost nothing now).  

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The ps2 has 35 games rated a 9 or higher according to the average ratings on gamerankings.com.  The Xbox has 17.  18 of those games for the PS2 came out in 2000(1), 2001(10), 2002(7).  2 of the Xbox's come from the period ending in 2002...2001(1) 2002(1).  That means that since 2003 to now, the PS2 has had 17 games average a 9 from reviews to the Xbox's 15.  So for the past 2.5 years, the number of "great" games between the two systems is virutally identical...now, you were saying about a "couple" quality Xbox games?

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You know you can play ps2 games that are older than 2.5 years right? 35-17 is not an equal comparison. A score of 9 doesn't mean anything becuase I bet quite a few high quality games were in the 8 range and just missed the cut, or totally got screwed over and ended up getting a 7.9 or something. You would have to include them as well.
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Re: PlayStation Exclusives!

Jun 28, 2005


Steppy76 wrote:


eggsampull wrote:


Steppy76 wrote:


eggsampull wrote:


Loving Live wrote:


battousai_asane wrote:
Forza....FORZA!!!  Dude, that game SUCKS compared to Gran Turismo....man....



Really lets me pull the top ten racers this gen and see if your right.

 1. Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec  PS2  SCEA  76  8.7 93.6% 94.3%
 2. Burnout 3: Takedown  XBOX  EA Games  71  8.9 92.1% 93.4%
 3. Burnout 3: Takedown  PS2  EA Games  50  8.8 93.4% 93.4%
 4. Forza Motorsport  XBOX  Microsoft Game Studios  60  8.5 93.2% 93.1%
 5. Project Gotham Racing 2  XBOX  Microsoft Game Studios  84  8.6 92.2% 93.0%
 6. Mario Kart Super Circuit  GBA  Nintendo  43  8.6 90.9% 92.2%
 7. Crash Team Racing  PS  SCEA  33  8.3 90.6% 91.7%
 8. Gran Turismo 2  PS  SCEA  21  8.6 90.6% 91.3%
 9. Crazy Taxi  DC  Sega  42  8.0 90.1% 90.2%
 10. Wipeout Pure  PSP  SCEA  47  8.0 88.9% 89.6%
 
ops I don't see GT4 I guess it sucks fanboy


YOU,ARE A DUMBASS... You bash everyone and say that sales mean nothing then,you talk about scores... SCORES FROM OTHER PEOPLE, SO I GUESS WHAT,EVERYONE ELSE SAYS IS IMPORTANT... You like to call people fanboys, but,all you do is say xbox games are better... You are the fanboy. I guess,everyone who doesn't buy every system and every game is a fanboy,,anyone who likes one system more than another is a fanboy as well. Let,me put it this way, I have $150.00 should I buy an Xbox, or a Ps2...,Ps2 has faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar better exclusives, so I'll buy the ps2,,guess that makes me a fanboy becuase I like more than a couple of high,quality games.


No, the choice of a PS2 is,not what makes you a fanboy...it's the next line "becuase I like more,than a couple of high quality games." that does.



Ok,,what system has more higher quality games, better exclusives according,to the average gamer... Answer that, it won't be the xbox. Ps2 has,better exclusives, and more of them point blank.



It's,going to depend on who you ask.  What determines "high,quality"?  What are you gonna use as proof, since gamerankings,seems to be unacceptable?  If you do allow gamerankings average,scores to be used, you also have to look at the timeframe, as back in,2001, 2002, the PS2 had way more games coming out and had more better,games and more crappy ones...as time has gone on, the list of,exclusives has shrunk dramatically for the PS2(as more and more,developers have gone to supporting MS...most games nowdays come out on,both systems), and for the past couple years the number of high quality,games is pretty much identical between the two systems(just like the,number of more games to come out for the PS2 over the Xbox in a given,timeframe has also shrunk to almost nothing now).  

 

The,ps2 has 35 games rated a 9 or higher according to the average ratings,on gamerankings.com.  The Xbox has 17.  18 of those games for,the PS2 came out in 2000(1), 2001(10), 2002(7).  2 of the Xbox's,come from the period ending in 2002...2001(1) 2002(1).  That means,that since 2003 to now, the PS2 has had 17 games average a 9 from,reviews to the Xbox's 15.  So for the past 2.5 years, the number,of "great" games between the two systems is virutally identical...now,,you were saying about a "couple" quality Xbox games?



Just,because a game doesnt get a 90% on gr doesnt mean its not a great game.,There are plenty of games that get their score lowered from some stupid,sites that dont even play the games, I've read reviews of games that,said you couldnt do something in the game where if you played the game,,you would know that was something,you would earn later on in the game and there are some reviews that,admit to being biased towards a game (in a bad way). And one site,(cristian games) gave god of war a 7/10 because it was violent, they,said the game was perfect, but because it was violent it got its score,lowered. Is that fair? There are alot of great games that are ranked,lower than 90%.
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Re: PlayStation Exclusives!

Jun 28, 2005

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,eggsampull wrote:

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,Steppy76 wrote:

,
,
,eggsampull wrote:

,
,
,Steppy76 wrote:

,
,
,eggsampull wrote:

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,Loving Live wrote:

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,battousai_asane wrote:
Forza....FORZA!!!  Dude, that game SUCKS compared to Gran Turismo....man.... ,

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,
,


Really lets me pull the top ten racers this gen and see if your right.

,
 1. Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec  PS2  SCEA  76  8.7 93.6% 94.3%
 2. Burnout 3: Takedown  XBOX  EA Games  71  8.9 92.1% 93.4%
 3. Burnout 3: Takedown  PS2  EA Games  50  8.8 93.4% 93.4%
 4. Forza Motorsport  XBOX  Microsoft Game Studios  60  8.5 93.2% 93.1%
 5. Project Gotham Racing 2  XBOX  Microsoft Game Studios  84  8.6 92.2% 93.0%
 6. Mario Kart Super Circuit  GBA  Nintendo  43  8.6 90.9% 92.2%
 7. Crash Team Racing  PS  SCEA  33  8.3 90.6% 91.7%
 8. Gran Turismo 2  PS  SCEA  21  8.6 90.6% 91.3%
 9. Crazy Taxi  DC  Sega  42  8.0 90.1% 90.2%
 10. Wipeout Pure  PSP  SCEA  47  8.0 88.9% 89.6%
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ops I don't see GT4 I guess it sucks fanboy

,
,
YOU ARE A DUMBASS... You bash everyone and say that sales mean nothing then you talk about scores... SCORES FROM OTHER PEOPLE, SO I GUESS WHAT EVERYONE ELSE SAYS IS IMPORTANT... You like to call people fanboys, but all you do is say xbox games are better... You are the fanboy. I guess everyone who doesn't buy every system and every game is a fanboy, anyone who likes one system more than another is a fanboy as well. Let me put it this way, I have $150.00 should I buy an Xbox, or a Ps2... Ps2 has faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar better exclusives, so I'll buy the ps2, guess that makes me a fanboy becuase I like more than a couple of high quality games.
,
,

No, the choice of a PS2 is not what makes you a fanboy...it's the next line "becuase I like more than a couple of high quality games." that does. ,

,
,

,
Ok, what system has more higher quality games, better exclusives according to the average gamer... Answer that, it won't be the xbox. Ps2 has better exclusives, and more of them point blank.

,
,
,


It's going to depend on who you ask.  What determines "high quality"?  What are you gonna use as proof, since gamerankings seems to be unacceptable?  If you do allow gamerankings average scores to be used, you also have to look at the timeframe, as back in 2001, 2002, the PS2 had way more games coming out and had more better games and more crappy ones...as time has gone on, the list of exclusives has shrunk dramatically for the PS2(as more and more developers have gone to supporting MS...most games nowdays come out on both systems), and for the past couple years the number of high quality games is pretty much identical between the two systems(just like the number of more games to come out for the PS2 over the Xbox in a given timeframe has also shrunk to almost nothing now).  

,

 

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The ps2 has 35 games rated a 9 or higher according to the average ratings on gamerankings.com.  The Xbox has 17.  18 of those games for the PS2 came out in 2000(1), 2001(10), 2002(7).  2 of the Xbox's come from the period ending in 2002...2001(1) 2002(1).  That means that since 2003 to now, the PS2 has had 17 games average a 9 from reviews to the Xbox's 15.  So for the past 2.5 years, the number of "great" games between the two systems is virutally identical...now, you were saying about a "couple" quality Xbox games?

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You know you can play ps2 games that are older than 2.5 years right? 35-17 is not an equal comparison. A score of 9 doesn't mean anything becuase I bet quite a few high quality games were in the 8 range and just missed the cut, or totally got screwed over and ended up getting a 7.9 or something. You would have to include them as well.
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Like the Xbox has no games in the 8 range either?...both systems are being measured using the same metric.  My point was that the Xbox has more than "a couple" quality games, and that as time has gone on the delta between "good games" released on the two systems has shrunk to nothing.  Your point was you want more than a "couple" quality games.  I've shown the Xbox has more quality games than that, and now releases the same number of "quality" games in a given year that the PS2 does.  Do you have any deductive reasoning skills at all?
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Re: PlayStation Exclusives!

Jun 28, 2005

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,Jak_the_man wrote:

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,Steppy76 wrote:

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,eggsampull wrote:

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,Steppy76 wrote:

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,
,eggsampull wrote:

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,Loving Live wrote:

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,battousai_asane wrote:
Forza....FORZA!!!  Dude, that game SUCKS compared to Gran Turismo....man.... ,

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,
,


Really lets me pull the top ten racers this gen and see if your right.

,
 1. Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec  PS2  SCEA  76  8.7 93.6% 94.3%
 2. Burnout 3: Takedown  XBOX  EA Games  71  8.9 92.1% 93.4%
 3. Burnout 3: Takedown  PS2  EA Games  50  8.8 93.4% 93.4%
 4. Forza Motorsport  XBOX  Microsoft Game Studios  60  8.5 93.2% 93.1%
 5. Project Gotham Racing 2  XBOX  Microsoft Game Studios  84  8.6 92.2% 93.0%
 6. Mario Kart Super Circuit  GBA  Nintendo  43  8.6 90.9% 92.2%
 7. Crash Team Racing  PS  SCEA  33  8.3 90.6% 91.7%
 8. Gran Turismo 2  PS  SCEA  21  8.6 90.6% 91.3%
 9. Crazy Taxi  DC  Sega  42  8.0 90.1% 90.2%
 10. Wipeout Pure  PSP  SCEA  47  8.0 88.9% 89.6%
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ops I don't see GT4 I guess it sucks fanboy

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YOU ARE A DUMBASS... You bash everyone and say that sales mean nothing then you talk about scores... SCORES FROM OTHER PEOPLE, SO I GUESS WHAT EVERYONE ELSE SAYS IS IMPORTANT... You like to call people fanboys, but all you do is say xbox games are better... You are the fanboy. I guess everyone who doesn't buy every system and every game is a fanboy, anyone who likes one system more than another is a fanboy as well. Let me put it this way, I have $150.00 should I buy an Xbox, or a Ps2... Ps2 has faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar better exclusives, so I'll buy the ps2, guess that makes me a fanboy becuase I like more than a couple of high quality games.
,
,

No, the choice of a PS2 is not what makes you a fanboy...it's the next line "becuase I like more than a couple of high quality games." that does. ,

,
,

,
Ok, what system has more higher quality games, better exclusives according to the average gamer... Answer that, it won't be the xbox. Ps2 has better exclusives, and more of them point blank.

,
,
,


It's going to depend on who you ask.  What determines "high quality"?  What are you gonna use as proof, since gamerankings seems to be unacceptable?  If you do allow gamerankings average scores to be used, you also have to look at the timeframe, as back in 2001, 2002, the PS2 had way more games coming out and had more better games and more crappy ones...as time has gone on, the list of exclusives has shrunk dramatically for the PS2(as more and more developers have gone to supporting MS...most games nowdays come out on both systems), and for the past couple years the number of high quality games is pretty much identical between the two systems(just like the number of more games to come out for the PS2 over the Xbox in a given timeframe has also shrunk to almost nothing now).  

,

 

,

The ps2 has 35 games rated a 9 or higher according to the average ratings on gamerankings.com.  The Xbox has 17.  18 of those games for the PS2 came out in 2000(1), 2001(10), 2002(7).  2 of the Xbox's come from the period ending in 2002...2001(1) 2002(1).  That means that since 2003 to now, the PS2 has had 17 games average a 9 from reviews to the Xbox's 15.  So for the past 2.5 years, the number of "great" games between the two systems is virutally identical...now, you were saying about a "couple" quality Xbox games?

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Just because a game doesnt get a 90% on gr doesnt mean its not a great game. There are plenty of games that get their score lowered from some stupid sites that dont even play the games, I've read reviews of games that said you couldnt do something in the game where if you played the game, you would know that was something you would earn later on in the game and there are some reviews that admit to being biased towards a game (in a bad way). And one site (cristian games) gave god of war a 7/10 because it was violent, they said the game was perfect, but because it was violent it got its score lowered. Is that fair? There are alot of great games that are ranked lower than 90%.
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Did I say that a game has to get a 90% to be a great game?  I don't believe I did.  That was simply my cutoff point, because I don't think ANYONE would dispute 90 or above = great.  Once again, like I said to example(eggsampull), both systems games are being judged on the same metric, and 1 review won't do much to the score as a minimum of 20 reviews are needed for a game to be included in the rankings.  Do you for some reason think the Xbox is exempt from the "bad review"?  Point is, I did NOT say PS2 games are bad, I'm merely stating that there are some good Xbox games as well....egg basically says all Xbox games are bad...see the difference?  I am not bashing the PS2 while he is bashing the Xbox.,
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,Steppy76 wrote:

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,Jak_the_man wrote:

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,Steppy76 wrote:

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,eggsampull wrote:

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,Steppy76 wrote:

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,Loving Live wrote:

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Forza....FORZA!!!  Dude, that game SUCKS compared to Gran Turismo....man.... ,

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Really lets me pull the top ten racers this gen and see if your right.

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 1. Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec  PS2  SCEA  76  8.7 93.6% 94.3%
 2. Burnout 3: Takedown  XBOX  EA Games  71  8.9 92.1% 93.4%
 3. Burnout 3: Takedown  PS2  EA Games  50  8.8 93.4% 93.4%
 4. Forza Motorsport  XBOX  Microsoft Game Studios  60  8.5 93.2% 93.1%
 5. Project Gotham Racing 2  XBOX  Microsoft Game Studios  84  8.6 92.2% 93.0%
 6. Mario Kart Super Circuit  GBA  Nintendo  43  8.6 90.9% 92.2%
 7. Crash Team Racing  PS  SCEA  33  8.3 90.6% 91.7%
 8. Gran Turismo 2  PS  SCEA  21  8.6 90.6% 91.3%
 9. Crazy Taxi  DC  Sega  42  8.0 90.1% 90.2%
 10. Wipeout Pure  PSP  SCEA  47  8.0 88.9% 89.6%
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ops I don't see GT4 I guess it sucks fanboy

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YOU ARE A DUMBASS... You bash everyone and say that sales mean nothing then you talk about scores... SCORES FROM OTHER PEOPLE, SO I GUESS WHAT EVERYONE ELSE SAYS IS IMPORTANT... You like to call people fanboys, but all you do is say xbox games are better... You are the fanboy. I guess everyone who doesn't buy every system and every game is a fanboy, anyone who likes one system more than another is a fanboy as well. Let me put it this way, I have $150.00 should I buy an Xbox, or a Ps2... Ps2 has faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar better exclusives, so I'll buy the ps2, guess that makes me a fanboy becuase I like more than a couple of high quality games.
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No, the choice of a PS2 is not what makes you a fanboy...it's the next line "becuase I like more than a couple of high quality games." that does. ,

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Ok, what system has more higher quality games, better exclusives according to the average gamer... Answer that, it won't be the xbox. Ps2 has better exclusives, and more of them point blank.

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It's going to depend on who you ask.  What determines "high quality"?  What are you gonna use as proof, since gamerankings seems to be unacceptable?  If you do allow gamerankings average scores to be used, you also have to look at the timeframe, as back in 2001, 2002, the PS2 had way more games coming out and had more better games and more crappy ones...as time has gone on, the list of exclusives has shrunk dramatically for the PS2(as more and more developers have gone to supporting MS...most games nowdays come out on both systems), and for the past couple years the number of high quality games is pretty much identical between the two systems(just like the number of more games to come out for the PS2 over the Xbox in a given timeframe has also shrunk to almost nothing now).  

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The ps2 has 35 games rated a 9 or higher according to the average ratings on gamerankings.com.  The Xbox has 17.  18 of those games for the PS2 came out in 2000(1), 2001(10), 2002(7).  2 of the Xbox's come from the period ending in 2002...2001(1) 2002(1).  That means that since 2003 to now, the PS2 has had 17 games average a 9 from reviews to the Xbox's 15.  So for the past 2.5 years, the number of "great" games between the two systems is virutally identical...now, you were saying about a "couple" quality Xbox games?

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Just because a game doesnt get a 90% on gr doesnt mean its not a great game. There are plenty of games that get their score lowered from some stupid sites that dont even play the games, I've read reviews of games that said you couldnt do something in the game where if you played the game, you would know that was something you would earn later on in the game and there are some reviews that admit to being biased towards a game (in a bad way). And one site (cristian games) gave god of war a 7/10 because it was violent, they said the game was perfect, but because it was violent it got its score lowered. Is that fair? There are alot of great games that are ranked lower than 90%.
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Did I say that a game has to get a 90% to be a great game?  I don't believe I did.  That was simply my cutoff point, because I don't think ANYONE would dispute 90 or above = great.  Once again, like I said to example(eggsampull), both systems games are being judged on the same metric, and 1 review won't do much to the score as a minimum of 20 reviews are needed for a game to be included in the rankings.  Do you for some reason think the Xbox is exempt from the "bad review"?  Point is, I did NOT say PS2 games are bad, I'm merely stating that there are some good Xbox games as well....egg basically says all Xbox games are bad...see the difference?  I am not bashing the PS2 while he is bashing the Xbox. ,

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Good and bad are both subjective terms, I do not like the majority of the games for the xbox, I own both consoles and the PS2 has far better games in my opinion, I did not say all games for the Xbox are bad, but if I was going to spend my own money (my xbox was a gift) then I would rather spend it on a ps2 which has more games that appeal to me, it's called an opinion, and everone with one is not a fanboy.
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Re: PlayStation Exclusives!

Jun 28, 2005

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Forza....FORZA!!!  Dude, that game SUCKS compared to Gran Turismo....man.... ,

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Really lets me pull the top ten racers this gen and see if your right.

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 1. Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec  PS2  SCEA  76  8.7 93.6% 94.3%
 2. Burnout 3: Takedown  XBOX  EA Games  71  8.9 92.1% 93.4%
 3. Burnout 3: Takedown  PS2  EA Games  50  8.8 93.4% 93.4%
 4. Forza Motorsport  XBOX  Microsoft Game Studios  60  8.5 93.2% 93.1%
 5. Project Gotham Racing 2  XBOX  Microsoft Game Studios  84  8.6 92.2% 93.0%
 6. Mario Kart Super Circuit  GBA  Nintendo  43  8.6 90.9% 92.2%
 7. Crash Team Racing  PS  SCEA  33  8.3 90.6% 91.7%
 8. Gran Turismo 2  PS  SCEA  21  8.6 90.6% 91.3%
 9. Crazy Taxi  DC  Sega  42  8.0 90.1% 90.2%
 10. Wipeout Pure  PSP  SCEA  47  8.0 88.9% 89.6%
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ops I don't see GT4 I guess it sucks fanboy

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YOU ARE A DUMBASS... You bash everyone and say that sales mean nothing then you talk about scores... SCORES FROM OTHER PEOPLE, SO I GUESS WHAT EVERYONE ELSE SAYS IS IMPORTANT... You like to call people fanboys, but all you do is say xbox games are better... You are the fanboy. I guess everyone who doesn't buy every system and every game is a fanboy, anyone who likes one system more than another is a fanboy as well. Let me put it this way, I have $150.00 should I buy an Xbox, or a Ps2... Ps2 has faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar better exclusives, so I'll buy the ps2, guess that makes me a fanboy becuase I like more than a couple of high quality games.
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No, the choice of a PS2 is not what makes you a fanboy...it's the next line "becuase I like more than a couple of high quality games." that does. ,

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Ok, what system has more higher quality games, better exclusives according to the average gamer... Answer that, it won't be the xbox. Ps2 has better exclusives, and more of them point blank.

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It's going to depend on who you ask.  What determines "high quality"?  What are you gonna use as proof, since gamerankings seems to be unacceptable?  If you do allow gamerankings average scores to be used, you also have to look at the timeframe, as back in 2001, 2002, the PS2 had way more games coming out and had more better games and more crappy ones...as time has gone on, the list of exclusives has shrunk dramatically for the PS2(as more and more developers have gone to supporting MS...most games nowdays come out on both systems), and for the past couple years the number of high quality games is pretty much identical between the two systems(just like the number of more games to come out for the PS2 over the Xbox in a given timeframe has also shrunk to almost nothing now).  

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The ps2 has 35 games rated a 9 or higher according to the average ratings on gamerankings.com.  The Xbox has 17.  18 of those games for the PS2 came out in 2000(1), 2001(10), 2002(7).  2 of the Xbox's come from the period ending in 2002...2001(1) 2002(1).  That means that since 2003 to now, the PS2 has had 17 games average a 9 from reviews to the Xbox's 15.  So for the past 2.5 years, the number of "great" games between the two systems is virutally identical...now, you were saying about a "couple" quality Xbox games?

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Just because a game doesnt get a 90% on gr doesnt mean its not a great game. There are plenty of games that get their score lowered from some stupid sites that dont even play the games, I've read reviews of games that said you couldnt do something in the game where if you played the game, you would know that was something you would earn later on in the game and there are some reviews that admit to being biased towards a game (in a bad way). And one site (cristian games) gave god of war a 7/10 because it was violent, they said the game was perfect, but because it was violent it got its score lowered. Is that fair? There are alot of great games that are ranked lower than 90%.
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Did I say that a game has to get a 90% to be a great game?  I don't believe I did.  That was simply my cutoff point, because I don't think ANYONE would dispute 90 or above = great.  Once again, like I said to example(eggsampull), both systems games are being judged on the same metric, and 1 review won't do much to the score as a minimum of 20 reviews are needed for a game to be included in the rankings.  Do you for some reason think the Xbox is exempt from the "bad review"?  Point is, I did NOT say PS2 games are bad, I'm merely stating that there are some good Xbox games as well....egg basically says all Xbox games are bad...see the difference?  I am not bashing the PS2 while he is bashing the Xbox. ,

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Good and bad are both subjective terms, I do not like the majority of the games for the xbox, I own both consoles and the PS2 has far better games in my opinion, I did not say all games for the Xbox are bad, but if I was going to spend my own money (my xbox was a gift) then I would rather spend it on a ps2 which has more games that appeal to me, it's called an opinion, and everone with one is not a fanboy.

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I can most certainly agree with the first part.  If I may ask, what games do you own/like to play for the PS2?  BTW, in many of your posts you do certainly imply(sometimes flat out saying it)that the Xbox has nothing but Halo.  I wouldn't reply to you if you said "PS2 has great games" or "I don't like Xbox games" or "I prefer the PS2"...when I reply is when you say things like "Xbox only has halo".  I personally HATE turn based RPG's...but I don't say FF is a bad game...I'll say I don't like it.  I guess I just got used to not voicing my opinion as fact(many people do this unintentionally).
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