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Id hate to have the PS4 be BC b/c I do not want to pay for a feature I'll never use. My entertainment set up has enough room for 2 consoles, I have pleanty of HDMI ports in my TV for 2 consoles so if I want to play PS3 games I just turn it on and play. It would be a useless feature for me and I would not want to pay for it.

 

Kinda like how stupid it is to bundle the Kenict 2 w/ the XB1 and force everyone to pay for it even if you would never want to use it.


That's entirely understandable. I always wanted Sony to release 2 SKU's, a higher priced SKU with full backwards compatibility for those who want it, and a lower priced SKU with no BC for those who don't want it. But as I said, I am not mad at Sony and have accepted that the PS4 is not BC. Smiley Happy


Having 2 SKUs were increase manufacturing costs, because they would be build 2 completely different consoles. Overall, it's not worth it on Sony's end.

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Blue-Eyed-Sword wrote:

SC-GRAY_FOX wrote:

Id hate to have the PS4 be BC b/c I do not want to pay for a feature I'll never use. My entertainment set up has enough room for 2 consoles, I have pleanty of HDMI ports in my TV for 2 consoles so if I want to play PS3 games I just turn it on and play. It would be a useless feature for me and I would not want to pay for it.

 

Kinda like how stupid it is to bundle the Kenict 2 w/ the XB1 and force everyone to pay for it even if you would never want to use it.


That's entirely understandable. I always wanted Sony to release 2 SKU's, a higher priced SKU with full backwards compatibility for those who want it, and a lower priced SKU with no BC for those who don't want it. But as I said, I am not mad at Sony and have accepted that the PS4 is not BC. Smiley Happy


Having 2 SKUs were increase manufacturing costs, because they would be build 2 completely different consoles. Overall, it's not worth it on Sony's end.


Not to mention the demands of having 2 SKU's at launch. That would be a LOT of work

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Devil's Advovate.

 

Multiplayer should be free. I shouldn't have to pay for all the other features when I don't want them. Son'y lied to us about multiplayer always being free.

 

I have limited space and don't have room for every console. I want one console to play all my games.



This is basically where I'm at.  I think they should have a 2 tiered service, a free one and one (included with plus) that you pay for to get features like sharing and cross game chat that people want (which cost money to provide/maint).

 

I already pay for plus so for me personally, its not a big deal as I wasn't cancelling, but its more a "principle" thing to me

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Basically what it comes down to is that Sony has built this console for those who are ready for the next generation in gaming. Those who are ready to move beyond the PS3. For those who are not ready for that then keep playing your PS3 until you feel as though you have had your fill. To provide us with the cheapest console as possible Sony did the right thing.


The real complaint here should not be about the PS4 not being BC but why Sony decided to move away from the cell processor and go w/ the AMD chipset ( I'm glad they did ) but arguing about the BC option is a moot point when your dealing with AMD VS a Cell processor so in fact the BC dilemma goes much deeper then just the PS4 not being BC

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PLYMCO_PILGRIM wrote:

ExMimic wrote:

Devil's Advovate.

 

Multiplayer should be free. I shouldn't have to pay for all the other features when I don't want them. Son'y lied to us about multiplayer always being free.

 

I have limited space and don't have room for every console. I want one console to play all my games.



This is basically where I'm at.  I think they should have a 2 tiered service, a free one and one (included with plus) that you pay for to get features like sharing and cross game chat that people want (which cost money to provide/maint).

 

I already pay for plus so for me personally, its not a big deal as I wasn't cancelling, but its more a "principle" thing to me


The problem with this is Plus members are then footing the bill for the better servers that non plus members will be on. I honestly don't care one way or another, but it could possibly start a bigger outcry than what's happening now.
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ExMimic wrote:

PLYMCO_PILGRIM wrote:

ExMimic wrote:

Devil's Advovate.

 

Multiplayer should be free. I shouldn't have to pay for all the other features when I don't want them. Son'y lied to us about multiplayer always being free.

 

I have limited space and don't have room for every console. I want one console to play all my games.



This is basically where I'm at.  I think they should have a 2 tiered service, a free one and one (included with plus) that you pay for to get features like sharing and cross game chat that people want (which cost money to provide/maint).

 

I already pay for plus so for me personally, its not a big deal as I wasn't cancelling, but its more a "principle" thing to me


The problem with this is Plus members are then footing the bill for the better servers that non plus members will be on. I honestly don't care one way or another, but it could possibly start a bigger outcry than what's happening now.

How are non plus members going to be using the same servers as plus members when they wont be able to play online and use those servers?

 

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basicly what it comes down to is that Sony has built this console for those who are ready for the next generation in gaming. Those who are ready to move beyond the PS3. For those who are not ready for that then keep playing your PS3 until you feel as though you have had your fill. To provide us with the cheapest console as possible Sony did the right thing.


The real complaint here should not be about the PS4 not being BC but why Sony decided to move away from the cell processor and go w/ the AMD chipset ( I'm glad they did ) but arging about the BC option is a moot point when your dealing with AMD VS a Cell processor so in fact the BC delima goes much deeper then just the PS4 not being BC


The bright side: This should make the PS5 BC.

 

It's like Sony is start over. This a new beginning for them, and they should have called the Playstation One.

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SC-GRAY_FOX wrote:

ExMimic wrote:

PLYMCO_PILGRIM wrote:

ExMimic wrote:

Devil's Advovate.

 

Multiplayer should be free. I shouldn't have to pay for all the other features when I don't want them. Son'y lied to us about multiplayer always being free.

 

I have limited space and don't have room for every console. I want one console to play all my games.



This is basically where I'm at.  I think they should have a 2 tiered service, a free one and one (included with plus) that you pay for to get features like sharing and cross game chat that people want (which cost money to provide/maint).

 

I already pay for plus so for me personally, its not a big deal as I wasn't cancelling, but its more a "principle" thing to me


The problem with this is Plus members are then footing the bill for the better servers that non plus members will be on. I honestly don't care one way or another, but it could possibly start a bigger outcry than what's happening now.

How are non plus members going to be using the same servers as plus members when they wont be able to play online and use those servers?

 


I was applying that a scenario of multiplayer free for everyone, and plus members getting the other online benefits like streaming.

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Will the PS4 be using Gaikai servers for online play?

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Will the PS4 be using Gaikai servers for online play?


No word yet, but, I doubt it.

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