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Will PS4 be able to prevent Data corruption ?

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When the PS3 runs into this issue it will try to fix the system file, if it can not we have to wipe the hard drive and lose everything, game save data,photos,music,games,movies,themes, and in some cases these items will not be in our download history. On PS3 any time a game freezes, crashes, and downloads games improperly we risk data corruption when we reboot. This is an old school problem with a large number of solutions available, but instead of solving this issue once and for all, Sony chose to let it fall on the shoulders of the consumer to deal with it. Sony is prematurely forcing the next gen on us because they are hell bent on releasing there console first. That reveal video was not what it needed to be, Sony holds a bigger share in the gaming market because of us , hardcore gamers, we don't need to be sold, we need to know that our concerns are at heart in the development process of PS4, and that old school problems will be a thing of the past. Why should we jump wallet first into the next gen , just to deal with the same problems all over again. It is time to stop using E3 as sales pitch where they show cg movies of games, I want to see actual game footage and someone playing on stage, I want to see someone holding a PS4 , I want game developers to talk about replay value and how to achieve it and stop making predetermined path games, and make freezing and crashing a thing of the past.
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there is no 100% way to prevent data corruption. when it happens, it happens.... sometimes it can be repaired, other times it is lost data.

 

 

The reason why the PS3 automatically deletes any corrupted data is two fold.

 

1) the PS3's file system and Operating system is encrypted

2) ensure data integrity for the surrounding data so that such data is not affected.

Like most hdd recovery software, some can recover deleted files, some can even restore a drive's integrity by repairing bad clusters and data sectors to restore capacity and ultimately bring the drive back to like-new operation. (I still keep a bootable USB flash drive and even an old 3.5" floppy with a USB floppy drive loaded with a simple program that repairs disk errors and in some cases can bring a drive "back from the dead")

 

yes, while technology does advance, some things can't be advanced any more than it already is, and usually, the old school way is the best way.



If you have imporant data, or cherished memories on any device.... a person with logic and common sense would have made regular backups(in some cases MULTIPLE backups and put the data in different places.... not just strewn about your house, but kept outside of your home like a safety deposit box, or a trusted relative) and put that backed up data in a safe place.

We all know any computer device is going to freeze on us and eventually give us errors.... if you NEVER once had a thought cross your mind that you might lose your data, you've essentially already lost it.

Cognitive Dissonance - The ability to understand multiple viewpoints even if they conflict with one another - and still use critical thinking, logical thought, and common sense to come to the realization that only ONE is the correct one and the others are wrong.

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gR3yGh051, you are wrong buddy. There are simple solutions to this problem, here is just one : Sony can give the PS4 internal memory dedicated to downloading games or anything sold in playstation store and give the PS4 the ability to scan the data contained within and before this data even touches the hdd any and all issues can then be dealt with or just delete the content and re-download it .
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If it finds problems...that means it was corrupted right? band-aid over a bullet wound buddy.

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Exactly. Any data can become corrupt as the magnetic arm in the hdd passes over the clusters. This is why the ps3 should have features within the main os (without having to go into safe mode) to defragment and run a disk check. Hard drive maintenance is a key component to making your drive last.
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I am talking about additional memory separate from the HDD, so bad downloads don't corrupt the HDD. And Sony should give the PS4 os the ability to use partitions as containment so if one game goes bad it wont corrupt the HDD, we could then deal with problems individually and not lose all of our data.
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I don't think having separate partitions is really going to do any good. All that's going to do is make it so that the system will lose more clusters between the logically accessible sectors of the hard drive. Also, having separate partitions only effects what is logically accessible. The magnetic arm will still pass over the clusters within the drive itself, and that will make it so that the separate partitions will essentially do nothing to prevent data from becoming corrupted.
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I agree with you the_ed_85 , and thank you for your input. The problem is that the PS3 does not have a reset button to use when a game freezes, and it does not protect the other game files from the bad ones like computer can and since it downloads files directly to the HDD it puts everything at risk of corruption if the downloaded file is bad. I want Sony to address this issue in PS4, at least try to prevent corruption from happening.
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The ps3 does have an auto restart feature if a program hangs. Sometimes the system fails to recognize that a program has hung, and you need to restart the system manually, but in my experience, most of the time the automatic restart feature works.
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I have had my PS3 since it launched, games freeze on me all the time and my PS3 has never restarted by its self , but it always has to fix the system file. The PS3 os is designed to put all data into one file and if one piece goes bad its all bad, I hope Sony changes this on the PS4.
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