06-24-2013 03:20 PM
06-24-2013 03:36 PM
RGA, I dont mind paying as long as they are improved from Day 1. What I dont want is a year after everyone is paying, that they begin to work on it.
Therein lies the problem. They won't have worked on it by the time PS4 rolls out and unlikely they ever will. Look at the mess that is HOME, over 4 years later and still a buggy beta.
06-24-2013 05:30 PM
Some games won't require Plus (FFXIV being one of the main ones-but you need to have a Square ENix Accoutn set up for monthly charges).
Other FPS and primary games will.
06-24-2013 05:49 PM
I have laughed at how funny the conversation has been; mostly the gramatical errors by one certain person. But hey whatever. So I have done some digging around on the internet and from a comparsion of the ps3 vs ps4 specs from March 2013. So its fairly currently stuff.http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/playstation-3-
But I'll copy and paste it here for easier access.
290mm (w) x 60mm (h) x 230mm (d)
|Processor||CPU: 3.2 GHz Cell Broadband Engine|
GPU: RSX “Reality Synthesizer” @ 550MHz, 1.8 T-FLOPS floating point performance
|CPU: Eight-core X86 AMD Jaguar|
GPU:1.84 T-FLOPS, AMD Radeon Graphics Core Next Engine
|Memory||256MB XDR Main RAM|
256MB GDDR3 VRAM
|8GB GDDR5 RAM|
|Hard Disk Drive||Built-in||Built-in|
|AV Output||HDMI, Analog-AV out, Digital Output (Optical)||HDMI, Analog-AV out, Digital Output (Optical)|
|I/O Output||Hi-Speed USB (USB 2.0) X 2||Super Speed USB (USB 3.0) X 3, AUX|
|Communication||Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T), Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR), IEEE 802.11 b/g Wi-Fi||Ethernet (10BASE-T,100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T), Bluetooth 2.1 (EDR), IEEE 802.11 b/g/n Wi-Fi|
|Controller||610amAh DualShock 3 (192g, six-axis motion sensing)||1000amAh DualShock 4 (210g, six-axis motion sensing, 2 Point Touch Pad)|
|Camera||640X480 @ 60Hz, 320×240 @ 120Hz||1280×800 @ 60Hz, 640×400 @ 120Hz, 320×192 @ 240Hz|
|Price||$250+ (With multiple bundles)||TBA|
The PS4 also comes with a faster Blu-Ray drive; 2x on the PS3 and a 6x on the PS4 USB 3.0.
No new information on how PSN will be changed.
Here is also another article that breaks down the PS4 spec; dated from Feb, 2013. http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/a-look-inside-
Just a couple of quotes from the article
"Sony states that the PS4’s graphics chip, which is derived from existing Radeon technology and integrated into the Jaguar processor die, can push 1.84 TFLOPS. That number puts the power of the GPU roughly on par with a Radeon HD 7850 video card.
That may seem disappointing because the Radeon HD 7850 is “only” a mid-range GPU. Again, careful consideration allows for more optimism. Reviews of the Radeon HD 7850 graphics card have already shown that it can handle most current PC games at 1080p with medium to high detail, which is a huge leap over current-gen consoles.
Add in optimization, along with the possibility of rendering at 720p and scaling to 1080p (as current consoles do), and you have the potential for a huge leap forward in quality. The power on tap falls short of enabling support for 4K resolution in games, however. 4K video out will be supported for photos and videos, but games will render at a lower (as yet unspecified) resolution."
06-24-2013 06:02 PM
06-24-2013 06:06 PM
06-24-2013 07:13 PM
*waves* I'm back. Okay shotgunn here I go.
Google works wonders. Now I do not claim to be a computer/tech wiz but I'm trying lol.
There are a couple of items that jump out of this article stating that "It's true that movies and TV only use around 24, 25 or 30 FPS, depending on which part of the world you're in. But there are three important differences between Movies, TV and PC games:
1. Movies and TV use Motion Blur, so that if at any time you freeze a movie scene on your DVD player for example, a large part of the scene may consist of blurred objects. "
"PC games do not have a rock-solid unchanging framerate, while TV and movies do. While some games have a framerate cap of 30 or 60 FPS, very few if any PC games can be locked down to consistently show exactly 24 or 30 FPS - their FPS will vary, sometimes significantly. Movies and TV on the other hand always show exactly the same number of frames per second and do not vary one bit."
Both of these items can be found in the above linked article.
Another interesting article compares screen refresh rate vs FPS which I think might be some of the confusion of TV/cable whatever vs video game FPS.
The article even states that the two most confusing terms are frame rate and refresh rate.
I also found a long buried discussion on these very forums of 720p is 1280x720 @ 60 frames per second 1080i is 1920x108 from back in 2006.
If someone else can find any better info please post so the rest of can read it. It's been an interesting conversation so far lol.
06-24-2013 07:20 PM
06-24-2013 09:47 PM
Here's another interesting forum post about the refresh rate of HDTV's. http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation
60mhz vs 120mhz and this thread was created very very recently as well. Makes for hopefully more up to date information.
On a side note I really find it humorous that when given information that would help to clear up confusion and provide the most current facts as known at this time that one tends to not focus on that information. This thread actually started out with a decent question abet a difficult read.
Some answers to these questions concerning any enhancements that the new PSN will have over the current PSN we will receive the answers closer to launch date that we get. Unless of course someone wants to actually poise these questions to the playstationblog or twitter account. But I'm sure that's already been thought of and done since its been mentioned so many times already.
Sorry if my post doesn't contain spelling errors and run on sentences I like to have my posts actually you know make sense.
06-24-2013 10:02 PM