Role Playing General

[mixedkidbx]

I got WKC 2 the day it came out (had worked my butt off to plat WKC1 before WKC2 came out the next) only to find out that WKC2 was 100% of WKC1 with maybe 10% new stuff added on.  I stopped playing WKC2 a few months after it was released (this was before the first set of new quests had come out) and just havnt gotten back into it.

It really made me mad that everything i went thru to plat the first one, HAD to be done all over again in WKC2.  It was like they was saying "hey we couldnt take the time to really do a whole new game with new areas so we are just gonna have you do everything you did in WKC1 all over again in WKC2 and call it a new game, but we will add a tiny amount of new things to make it worth doing all over again".

I just cant get myself back into doing the same things all over again

[Barandix]

Originally WKC1 and 2 were suppose to be one title but the developers ran out of time for the second half (WKC2) and released both seperatly, this is why you can transfer your data from WKC1 to WKC2.  Currently there are about 70-80 quests including increased GR rank and level cap that are being denied to the US/EU players.  

I just wish the publishers would not have cut this game off so quickly, it was abandoned not even a year in, seriously who does that?  There are games much older that still get DLC content even though the player base is small.  

The petition has 1k+ signatures now I believe and many in the community report they would purchase the game again with the rest of the content on it or pay for a DLC package but I guess the cost of doing this is just to much for the publishers or something, very frustrating for alot of us as we want to keep playing but we have pretty much run everything available so many times it is getting stale and the player base is shrinking quickly as a result.

[Akirasolid]

I am one of the few people who platinumed the game and absolutely hated WKC1, I mean HATED the game. It has made me rethink whether to ever buy another level 5 game again. So, when WKC2 was coming out I was hoping they would've fixed some of the major issues I had with the game but it ended being a copy and paste of the first game, so I knew I was going to hate that game as well.

[perrandy]

thats why i only rented the title to see how it was.but sent it back to gamefly because the game was bad.its a shame really, because level-5 had the chance to make an epic game way back in 2006 but they somehow decided to change the direction of the game. oh and i'm with you that on game DLC gotta stop.actually, i was banned from a site for voicing my opinion on the matter when they started to sell horse armor lol

[Barandix]

Global Total as of 06th Oct 2012 (units): 0.53m according to VGChartz and that is pretty good for a JRPG.  The US/EU market it is around 0.26m or half of total sales Look at the sales of the Atelier series of games on PS3. Atelier Rorona sold (according to VG Chartz) only 280K copies total everywhere, and yet we are about to get the third in that series of games. Atelier Totori sold about 310,000...

copies. Both were considered successful enough to merit a sequel.

In fact WKC2 (0.53m) has outsold (according to VGChartz) all of these games;

(All tiles include all sales in every country on the PS3)

NieR (0.50m)

3D Dot Game Heroes (0.45m)

DC Universe Online (0.45m)

The Lord of the Rings: War in the North (0.51m)

Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice (0.41m)

Disgaea 4: A Promise Unforgotten (0.41m)

Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (0.34m) PS3

Eternal Sonata (0.33m)

Atelier Totori: The Adventurer of Arland (0.32m)

Two Worlds II (0.34m)

Atelier Rorona: Alchemist of Arland (0.30m)

Hyperdimension Neptunia (0.30m)

Hunted: The Demon's Forge (0.23m)

Ar tonelico Qoga: Knell of Ar Ciel (0.19m)

Enchanted Arms (0.18m)

Sacred 2: Fallen Angel (0.50m)

Suddenly I'm wondering why WKC2 is considered such a failure? Who'd call Dragon Age 2 a failure? Tales of Graces F? Star Ocean The Last Hope International? These sold a little better than WKC2, but not *that* much better...

Dragon Age II (0.63m)

Tales of Graces f (0.69m)

Star Ocean: The Last Hope International PS3 (0.58m)

Total sales also do not count for items people bought such as tickes, knight armors and GeoRama parts, though I am sure that will raise other games up a bit alos but there is still alot of money that was spent on extra items on the PSN store.

You know, I think we deserve better than we're getting both from the publisher/developer and the community. And comparatively speaking, I don't see how WKC as a series of games can be thought of as a failure at all.

[Akirasolid]

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perrandy wrote:

thats why i only rented the title to see how it was.but sent it back to gamefly because the game was bad.its a shame really, because level-5 had the chance to make an epic game way back in 2006 but they somehow decided to change the direction of the game. oh and i'm with you that on game DLC gotta stop.actually, i was banned from a site for voicing my opinion on the matter when they started to sell horse armor lol

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Yea, what sold me on the game was that E3 video that showed all the fighting in real time and not that horrible circle you needed to fill up to fight. WKC had the potential to be a really great sereies but it idk what they were thinking. I would of been satisfied with rogue galaxy's gameplay and that would of been great. I rather liked them to just have made a sequel to rogue galaxy and not continued with the WKC series at all.

[RavageX]

So I guess this is why the game is so cheap now. Suppose it's a good thing I didn't buy it...

[Barandix]

Took this off of GeoNet but here is a list of all the quests we are not being given, just an FYI for anybody interested.
Twilight Beast Army I & II

Dark World I & II

War Goddess I & II

God of Military Arts I & II

Footsteps of Destruction I & II

Favorite food of Behemoth I & II

Into the Deep I & II

Gigas Frenzy I & II GR 23/28

Flander Trail Quest GR 26/31

Lost Woods Quest GR 25/30

Frass Chasm Quest GR 25/30

Garthma Fortress Quest GR 27/32

Redhorn Island Quest GR 28/33

Apex Quest GR 23/28

Balsator Plains Quest GR 26/31

Vellgander Quest GR 30/35

Van Haven Waste Quest GR 34

Bunker Load Quest GR 35

Lost Woods Quest GR 36

Redhorn Isle Quest GR 36

Van Haven Waste Quest GR 37

Flander Trails Quest GR 37

Balandor Quest GR 38

Garthma Fortress Quest GR 38

Ancient City Quest GR 39

Dogma Rift Quest GR 40/50

Ancient City Quest

Avatar Story Quest line 1 - 10

Ancient City Costume Shop

There are also items in the OFFICIAL NA Strategy Guide such as Chromium/Guardian Gem lvl.10 and the "Overlord's Raiment" which is a reward for completing Avatar Quest 10. Per D3P these items are exclusive for Japan but why are they in the NA gaming guide then?  Guide also has Knight items such as Guardian/Power Gem V, Break unit increase items, Haste unit increase, Drive accessories to lower mp cost on Knights, all shown in the guide.

[Brozz65]

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colstripcapn wrote:

I knew there was a reason I have never, ever, not even once, bought DLC.

Sadly, I'm in the very, very, extreamly small minority on that. You know, if people didn't support DLC .... it wouldn't exist, the stuff would be on the disc, and you'd get it all on day one.

You know, just like in the PS2 and before years.

But... this is the world we live in now.

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I too am a mamber of that very exclusive club. I refuse to buy DLC, ever.
I think the trend of it is bad for consumers, and tends to lend itself to shady business practices (aka money grubbing)
DLC is the reason I quit MMOs. Though they call it "Cash Shop" or "In Game Store" or the like, its all the same idea.

[Genesis_Otaku88]

And now the servers are shutting down :C