SOCOM: US Navy Seals Series

[Imtiaz]

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Agent_Clutch wrote:

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Imtiaz wrote:

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Rico_Suavez wrote:
It was already stated by Zipper themselves that a Socom 2 HD remake will not be identical to the original Socom 2. And Zipper will not be the ones to develop it. Don't get me wrong, I helped you guys by voting yes on the blog share link. But why do you guys still insist on a Socom 2 remake when you guys know these things?

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We don't want it to be exactly identical.  We want it glitch/cheat free and updated graphics with same game mechanics. 

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It wont have the same game mechanics what dont yall understand about that. The game will play completely different. The game mechanics were flawed I dont see why people dont understand that. All the jump strafin bunny hoppin air shootin dolphin diving hail mary grenades will not be in a S2 remake period. New physics engine alone will cut out half of that nonsense. And the hit detection would be nothin like S2 which was the worst in the franchise.

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I'm more of an S1 advocate, but it's possible if they code it correctly.  I don't care for the dolphin, but I want the strafing, I want the jump-to-climb, I want to throw my grenades a bit further.  Nothing wrong with that, right?

[S_L_I_C_K]

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Agent_Clutch wrote:

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Imtiaz wrote:

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Rico_Suavez wrote:
It was already stated by Zipper themselves that a Socom 2 HD remake will not be identical to the original Socom 2. And Zipper will not be the ones to develop it. Don't get me wrong, I helped you guys by voting yes on the blog share link. But why do you guys still insist on a Socom 2 remake when you guys know these things?

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We don't want it to be exactly identical.  We want it glitch/cheat free and updated graphics with same game mechanics. 

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It wont have the same game mechanics what dont yall understand about that. The game will play completely different. The game mechanics were flawed I dont see why people dont understand that. All the jump strafin bunny hoppin air shootin dolphin diving hail mary grenades will not be in a S2 remake period. New physics engine alone will cut out half of that nonsense. And the hit detection would be nothin like S2 which was the worst in the franchise.

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and that right there is what most of the socom 2 remake people want. they seem to think that was some type of skill, just like the jump sniping.and that is exactly what i dont want in a socom game.

i want a socom game with a smooth fluid feel to it

i want good maps

i want controls that are smooth and work correctly, every time

i want to be able to lean without using some gimick

i want to have good hit detection that rewards people with good aim instead of leveling the playing fields between the vet and the newb by adding bullet spray

i want a clan ladder that works properly and cant be cheated by not showing up or picking game times at some absurd time of the day

i want smooth frame rate and lag free, i want people with bad connections to be punished

i want clear mics that work every time

i want proxy chat

i want to be able to jump over things without fumbling around

i want solid maps without glitches and soft spots

i want uneven rounds

i want the knife to work just how it does in confrontation

i want decent speed with our without a sprint button but i dont want turbo fast run speed

i dont want ping pong physics or crazy straff wars

i dont want dolphin diving

i dont want jump sniping

i want randomized play lists

i can go either way on ucrrs

i want 3rd person view, not ots and i dont want ots to be forced on me ever

i dont care if theres a cover system as long as the old system is uneffected

i dont want health regen

i dont want ranked respawn

is that to much to ask?

[MakoShark]

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S_L_I_C_K wrote:

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Agent_Clutch wrote:

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Imtiaz wrote:

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Rico_Suavez wrote:
It was already stated by Zipper themselves that a Socom 2 HD remake will not be identical to the original Socom 2. And Zipper will not be the ones to develop it. Don't get me wrong, I helped you guys by voting yes on the blog share link. But why do you guys still insist on a Socom 2 remake when you guys know these things?

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We don't want it to be exactly identical.  We want it glitch/cheat free and updated graphics with same game mechanics. 

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It wont have the same game mechanics what dont yall understand about that. The game will play completely different. The game mechanics were flawed I dont see why people dont understand that. All the jump strafin bunny hoppin air shootin dolphin diving hail mary grenades will not be in a S2 remake period. New physics engine alone will cut out half of that nonsense. And the hit detection would be nothin like S2 which was the worst in the franchise.

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and that right there is what most of the socom 2 remake people want. they seem to think that was some type of skill, just like the jump sniping.and that is exactly what i dont want in a socom game.

i want a socom game with a smooth fluid feel to it

i want good maps

i want controls that are smooth and work correctly, every time

i want to be able to lean without using some gimick

i want to have good hit detection that rewards people with good aim instead of leveling the playing fields between the vet and the newb by adding bullet spray

i want a clan ladder that works properly and cant be cheated by not showing up or picking game times at some absurd time of the day

i want smooth frame rate and lag free, i want people with bad connections to be punished

i want clear mics that work every time

i want proxy chat

i want to be able to jump over things without fumbling around

i want solid maps without glitches and soft spots

i want uneven rounds

i want the knife to work just how it does in confrontation

i want decent speed with our without a sprint button but i dont want turbo fast run speed

i dont want ping pong physics or crazy straff wars

i dont want dolphin diving

i dont want jump sniping

i want randomized play lists

i can go either way on ucrrs

i want 3rd person view, not ots and i dont want ots to be forced on me ever

i dont care if theres a cover system as long as the old system is uneffected

i dont want health regen

i dont want ranked respawn

is that to much to ask?

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I guess I wasn't completely truthfull in my other post in this thread, because I kinda want all that stuff too.

[TOMBSTONE4U]

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Rico_Suavez wrote:
It was already stated by Zipper themselves that a Socom 2 HD remake will not be identical to the original Socom 2. And Zipper will not be the ones to develop it. Don't get me wrong, I helped you guys by voting yes on the blog share link. But why do you guys still insist on a Socom 2 remake when you guys know these things?

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Because it could be redone in high def with very minor changes and good changes. No one is going to complain if the character movement animation is smoother,no one is going to complain if it doesn't lag,no one is going to complain if the hit detection is way better,no one is going to complain if the frame rate is way better and works smoother. On the better system all the changes should be improved changes.

My only worry would be if Zipper or any other dev decided they still wanted to add new things even to a game thats supposed to be a remake. With Zipper that's a real concern cause of the history of the company and how hellbent it is on changing stuff. Even in S2 they hurt the game by changing the Rat's Nest and Abdandonded map. Those were awesome maps that were virtually destroyed by Zipper's "creativity". If they can fight that severe itch they get to change things they could make an S2 HD remake that is actually way better then the original S2.

[Your_Sins]

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TOMBSTONE4U wrote:

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Rico_Suavez wrote:
It was already stated by Zipper themselves that a Socom 2 HD remake will not be identical to the original Socom 2. And Zipper will not be the ones to develop it. Don't get me wrong, I helped you guys by voting yes on the blog share link. But why do you guys still insist on a Socom 2 remake when you guys know these things?

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Because it could be redone in high def with very minor changes and good changes. No one is going to complain if the character movement animation is smoother,no one is going to complain if it doesn't lag,no one is going to complain if the hit detection is way better,no one is going to complain if the frame rate is way better and works smoother. On the better system all the changes should be improved changes.

My only worry would be if Zipper or any other dev decided they still wanted to add new things even to a game thats supposed to be a remake. With Zipper that's a real concern cause of the history of the company and how hellbent it is on changing stuff. Even in S2 they hurt the game by changing the Rat's Nest and Abdandonded map. Those were awesome maps that were virtually destroyed by Zipper's "creativity". If they can fight that severe itch they get to change things they could make an S2 HD remake that is actually way better then the original S2.

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Amen.

[APOCALYPES-2003]

Since we wont be getting anything from socom 4. We wont play that game. The next best thing for us old timers is to get an Hd of earlier socoms. plain and simple

[BiG-LUCK]

 I don't care if they do make SOCOM2hd or not. If they did I will buy it...... if they don't I could careless. I voted for it because I know I would buy it,  plus there are others who are a little more passionate about having S2HD than me. Who am I to vote against it and dictate what others may or may not have if I don't want it ?

[Curious-_-Neko]

Quick off-topic question...is this the Rico Suave I'm thinking of? Abel?

[mo_murdaa]

Socom 2 was easily the best game made for ps2, If they were to remake an EXACT remake in high def, they would profit millions . Socom 1 and 2 had a huge fan base but as soon as playstation 3 came out they slacked and produced **bleep** games. Remaking Socom 2 would be EPIC! just do it.

[BurningTheClutch]

id love a socom 2 remake because i miss socrack and these latest "socoms" arent cutting it...