Starhawk General

[ArVaDa-]

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firemarshall23 wrote:

Hawk pilots complain about Grizzlys.

Grizzly users complain about Hawks.

The cycle continues.

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only difference is any "noob" player can jump in a grizzly and be good. it takes practice to be good in a hawk

[Dark-Quaker]

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thesupertman wrote:
I think players just compain about anything that kills them!

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I think thats the truth

[pimentel2]

I love the grizzly. Great way to counter vehicles. However, I do agree they can get annoying with all the jumping. Perhaps a stamina meter could fix that.

Anyway, they are fairly easy to blow up, a grenade or two should do.

[tooarexbox]

The hawk is just as bad. Droping bombs on ppl coming out of the dops.
Runing over ppl when there fighting another play. So the grzzly make it more evern I say.

[Phillyblunz]

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armyluke wrote:

I can easily take one out with Flak (Although sometime I do miss, but thats my fault) the ones I have a problem with are the ones that bubble shield camp or bunnyhop around infantry units, they should atleast cost 5 rift so that infantry players can arm themselves with a VP before they arrive or get close to gettting a Launch Pad. On top of that there should be a 'Sprint Meter' so that they're atleast possible to take out with a Pod and the jump should have a 1 second cooldown as soon as you hit the ground so they dont spam jump. Their aim assist should also be nerfed.

Typing that was a waste of time really, LBI aren't here to do anything and SSM hardly care about us.

They're just annoying, sometimes you get a good Dogfight going with another pilot and then these things come in and ruin it.

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Just like I will be having a great ground battle and some dumb hawk comes up with torp or clusters or stealth or shield or flak, and ruins it.

Sorry but I'm glad pilots have finally found a vehicle which can affect them from the ground.

Before there was no way to deter or fight an airborne hawk.  To me they are like mobile flak turrets, something we desperately needed.  The only hawk loadouts I like are ones with Jetpack or grizzly cause they give you the option of not dieing when-ever a hawk wants you to.  So i get why pilots would be upset, and why groundies are liking hawk loadouts more.

Would you prefer all ground pounder like before the grizz came out?

Even when you have a grizz its not like you can chase down a hawk or hunt them, you can just fight the ones who wish to come near you.

Hawks are still the most OP cause any battle they wont win, they can flee from.

[Phillyblunz]

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ArVaDa- wrote:

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firemarshall23 wrote:

Hawk pilots complain about Grizzlys.

Grizzly users complain about Hawks.

The cycle continues.

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only difference is any "noob" player can jump in a grizzly and be good. it takes practice to be good in a hawk

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No way.

Its takes practice to be good in a grizz too,  If someone does not lnow what theya re doing they are easy prey in a griz.

The jumping is what kills them  mostly when facing a ground guy, if they dont keep the pressure on its easy to anticipate their landing with a grenade and some KR fire = them dead in just a few shots.

But get a guy like Shawn_Z in a grizz and see what the vehicle is actually capable of once you "Get Good".

Even the best grizzly driver can be killed by any hawk pilot with a torp, so which takes less skill?

[Phillyblunz]

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pimentel2 wrote:

I love the grizzly. Great way to counter vehicles. However, I do agree they can get annoying with all the jumping. Perhaps a stamina meter could fix that.

Anyway, they are fairly easy to blow up, a grenade or two should do.

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I have been asking for a spin limiter on hawks since beta, if we dont get that no way should griz get jump limiter, LOL.

If hawks can evade all day and never stop why shouldnt the grizz?

Lets be fair here, I will give up the jump if hawks give up the ability to evade missile locks, deal?

[ArVaDa-]

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Phillyblunz wrote:

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ArVaDa- wrote:

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firemarshall23 wrote:

Hawk pilots complain about Grizzlys.

Grizzly users complain about Hawks.

The cycle continues.

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only difference is any "noob" player can jump in a grizzly and be good. it takes practice to be good in a hawk

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No way.

Its takes practice to be good in a grizz too,  If someone does not lnow what theya re doing they are easy prey in a griz.

The jumping is what kills them  mostly when facing a ground guy, if they dont keep the pressure on its easy to anticipate their landing with a grenade and some KR fire = them dead in just a few shots.

But get a guy like Shawn_Z in a grizz and see what the vehicle is actually capable of once you "Get Good".

Even the best grizzly driver can be killed by any hawk pilot with a torp, so which takes less skill?

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lol i play with the best ground guys all the time, shawn included. I'm talking about lightweight/trooper loadouts.. which is my only complaint about grizzlies because that is where a lot of spamming comes from. I see **bleep** players hop in grizzlies and go 30-0 with field mechanic. It's just a lot of running away and people camping in bubble shields. Go to that server 123 any time of the week and you'll see what i mean.        

I have no problem with them in loadouts with hawks however because they do add an extra element to the overal gameplay. 

[ArVaDa-]

also ask any good ground player whether they think the grizzly is nooby or not and i gurantee they say yes. 

If you think it is easier to be good in a hawk then it is in a grizzly you are lying to yourself. 

[Phillyblunz]

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ArVaDa- wrote:

also ask any good ground player whether they think the grizzly is nooby or not and i gurantee they say yes. 

If you think it is easier to be good in a hawk then it is in a grizzly you are lying to yourself. 

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I was combating your idea that anyone can jump in a grizzly and be great, I've seen lots and lots of players who were not great in grizzlies.

And that once you can dodge at all in a hawk, you can be unkillable by anything other than hawks, to me that says something.

At least grizzlies can be killed by everything in the game.