12-18-2012 11:04 AM
i have to say you guys gave some good reading on the 2 games. Respectful too. Buttered you said in warhawk the other team couldn't control your vehicles. I have 1200 hours in warhawk man and one of the best strategies to use is to take the enemies hawks so they don't have any because in warhawk vehicles don't respawn until they are destroyed weather the enemy team has em or not.
To me personnally what makes warhawk better then starhawk was the pace of gameplay. In starhawk BnB slows down the battles, aiming slows down the battles (not to mention stupid **bleep** snap aim) skills create a so called imbalance weather its a perfect imbalance or not its still an imbalance.
I do understand what you are saying samo but disagree. In warhawk the balance was always equal between the players. You were considered to be skilled by rank and score at the end of everygame. Not by hitting triangle and changing your skill. This dumbing down with flight in starhawk is just dumb canned dogdes arrows and big circles. Just WOW!
I for one understand starhawk is not warhawk and won't ever even be close. With that said i don't think starhawk sucks its just not at warhawks level. LBI should have let hosts set up everything in starhawk just like they did in warhawk. Leaderboards in starhawk are lame if you can call them that. I don't really want to get into bashing starhawk.
Warhawk sucked at release worse then starhawk did. Points didn't even count until a month after release. But with warhawk Incognito was able to support the game for over a year unlike starhawk. People blame Sony advertising and that wasn't it. They blame santa monica and thats not it either. LBI made some decisions to make the game more noob friendly and take skill out of the equation not completely but in some ways it no longer matters.
LBI is the victim of their own bad decisions with this game. Stupid **bleep** single player and prospector would have given more time to online to be better if time wasn't wasted there. LBI changed a lot in starhawk compared to warhawk and kept some things from warhawk but very few.
I didn't want warhawk with new paint but i thought that LBI would at least carry over some of the things that made warhawk great. LBI tryed to please several different demographics, and in turn ended up not pleasing any. Sales numbers prove this. Warhawk vets are more vocal about this then others because of the love they had for Warhawk and incognito. This is why warhawk vets are borderline angry with the way starhawk is.
XMB kicks are the worse how can a company put a game out that does that. AND NEVER FIX IT. Its sad to me to see the downfall of LBI. But thats capitalism at its best the game dropped the ball big time and because of it we may never see a TRUE SPIRITUAL SUCCESSOR
This is just my opinions i don't hate starhawk but i truely do see all the shortcomings. LBI has no one to blame but themselves for their demise.
Well said TX. Not much more to add other than I agree. You know our point of disagreement on the spiritual successor thing from our other conversations but at least we see the basics the same.
12-18-2012 12:21 PM
The spiritual successor thing was definitely a bad move. On top of that, LBI geared the game towards us by saying it would appeal to us etc. Which is an obvious thing to do to get it to spread by word of mouth. I guess it's just unfortunate that the game they geared to us was terriblee
12-18-2012 12:37 PM
I think that's why the outrage and sense of betrayal from the Old Guard, and a lot of us late gen players. We felt like they used us as free marketing, a springboard if you will, then YOINK gave us something with about 5% Wh DNA and 95% something else.
That 95% something else can be a helluvalotof fun and all when you play with friends btw. But then again, a lot of normally not so fun things with strangers can be a lot of fun with friends.
Like... going to jail, floating down a river into Deliverance Country, etc etc.
12-18-2012 12:59 PM - edited 12-18-2012 01:00 PM
Soooo you don't mind getting baseraped with friends?
Hahah. Not nearly so much as I mind getting baseraped with strangers.
At least with friends there comes a point we start acting silly just for the lulz, like one night in WH on that god forsaken Archipalego map.
Me and Derry72 got at the base of ladder in homebase, started doing a tbagging, flamethrowering, bio-field mosh pit thing. Several others joined we laughed our arses off while the other team raped and pillaged.
Or that night a little kid kept asking someone with the WH axe to see it.... (and I'm having a brain fart on his name, crap, he's on my FL!) Anyway.... we goofed off looking at that guy's axe so long, annnd did the mosh pit thing there too, that the baserape was coming to us unaware and by then we'd attracted 6 other people to our party... and BLAMO. TOWed. All of us. And it was funny.
I just get gamerage when I get stuck with a team that's getting baseraped and I don't know any of them.