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Re: ND, TLoU netcode. Will we be punished for a good connection again ?

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blackdelage wrote:
people still use 56k?

Yeap:

 

http://www.pcworld.com/article/136441/article.html
http://www.businessinsider.com/us-counties-broadband-access-2010-7?op=1
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/aol-dial-up-modem-broadband-subscribers,news-13078.html

There's even a TV ad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eskik14Ho8

http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/The-Last-of-Us-Multiplayer/Ping-filter-toggle-SUPPORT-for-less-lag/m-p/40782623
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Re: ND, TLoU netcode. Will we be punished for a good connection again ?

Jun 7, 2013

Only two playlists and good sales should result in a fairly healthy player pool. Just put in a connection priority toggle and we'll be as happy as we can be until developers hopefully start implementing more dedicated servers on the PS4.

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Re: ND, TLoU netcode. Will we be punished for a good connection again ?

Jun 7, 2013

PsiloCube wrote:

Aureilia wrote:

Zidane_Finito wrote:

Well it does say *Broadband required* on the back of the case correct or was that fake?

 

Either way expect the worse it's ND afterall.


It's a lie probably. I wouldn't expect them to discount part of the market. I would expect them to not match me to them though.


http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/The-Last-of-Us-General/The-Last-Of-Us-Survival-Edition-Unboxi...

In that video the box says "broadband required."


I wasn't saying he was lying.

 

I was saying the box is lying because I'm pretty sure a lot of people i run into are certainly not broadband users and I've seen that on boxes before.



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Next time, I take that very seriously, if there´s no DS list I will do what I have to do with a 30+MBdown/3MB+up and a 26Ping connection.

 

It wont be a lag-switch, but it will be a soffware fix!!!

400ms delay while LAN, **bleep** that ND!!!

A multiplayer is supposed to feel the same as the game before it. You made that mistake with Uc3 but it was manageable. Now with Uc4 this is just ridiculous.

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Nice post.  This is one of the BIGGEST issue with NDI games.  It's the REASON I hardly played UC3's COMP MP. 

 

I don't expect any change.  If NDI suddenly had dedicated servers, I'm sure they let us know, and quick. 

 

But why do that?  P2P is good enough, according to NDI.  They don't play the games for a large enough sample to understand how horrible it really is. 

 

I explect very little from NDI in terms of MP on this title.  To have come out with ZERO Co-Op, only two ONLINE modes with one of them being ELIMINATION where you can SIT out for extended periods of time, no beta, and no real info other than a trailer for COMP MP.   

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What different kinds of net code could the game have? Would there be an answer form ND that would ease your mind?

 

I don't know about this stuff, but I read a lot of people prasing very highly the net code of Soul Calibur 5. It is a 1vs1, game, though... so I don't know how much a net code in such a game could be similar to a game with 8 players.

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blackdelage wrote:
people still use 56k?

One of my freinds just recently got off dial up. It's funny how he doesn't understand the internet well. Kinda sad, actually. Not everyone can afford it or live in an area where it is available. It sucks.

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Lag is a major problem in UC3s MP indeed, it freezes me up sometimes. I'm really hoping TLOU will have better ways to deal with these problems, especially because you have very limited respawns in the MP, getting killed because of lag wouldn't be fun.


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Lag is a major problem in UC3s MP indeed, it freezes me up sometimes. I'm really hoping TLOU will have better ways to deal with these problems, especially because you have very limited respawns in the MP, getting killed because of lag wouldn't be fun.


Hadn't even considered that. With the way the MP plays, that could get really annoying. And we still have no information on how things will be ?

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Jun 8, 2013

This is actually the most relevant and most important topic that should be considered by Naughty Dog and Sony.

 

It's really quite pitiful to be honest that the Uncharted series, and presumable TLOU, will use P2P servers... how they came to that decision is beyond me...

 

The Resistance series, another Sony exclusive, was mildly successful on the PS3 for one main reason: dedicated servers. IMO it has a mediocre FPS game structure but the extremely stable, consistent, top-notch, UNIVERSAL LAG-FREE servers push the game to a whole new level.

 

The Killzone series is another Sony exclusive which again did fairly well. These games, too, would be no-where without dedicated servers. 

 

The Uncharted series are undoubetdly one of the greatest assest to Sony exclusive games.. yet why in the world don't they have dedicated servers???!?! If they had offered them, the series would have been given much more fame, respect, better sales, and would provide Sony with a truly unbeatable exclusive.

 

Yet TLOU will be borrowing the same sorry a$$ peer to peer servers as the most generic shooting games out there. I understand the game is focused heavily on the SP. And that is great and all. I'm sure the SP will win game of the year awards. But there is still a significant part of the gaming population who enjoy and in fact prefer multiplayer. Being cheap and forcing us to put up with horrible lag is akin to making a SP game with $hitty AI. It ruins all fun in the game.

 

This is a serious issue that needs to be addressed. I can only pray that others will chime in and petition for dedicated servers. Because that will surely be a nail in this MP's coffin if not included. 

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