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...So What's the Reason? (Story Spoilers)

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Alright, so Joel and Tess were suppose to get a shipment of weapons, but Robert gave them to the Fireflies instead.

 

Alright, why did he give them away?  Did Marlene force him to give her the weapons so she could 'bribe' Joel and Tess into smuggling Ellie?  Or did Marlene want the weapons for herself, and Robert owed them?

 

Also, since Joel and Tess were there by chance, who was Marlene originally going to get to move Ellie, and why'd she suddenly accept Tess and Joel?

 

Why didn't Marlene move Ellie herself?  Is it because Joel is better at smuggling stuff so he'd have a better chance?

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Re: ...So What's the Reason? (Story Spoilers)

Dec 28, 2013
1) Robert gave the weapons to the Fireflies to repay a debt.
2) No Marlene had no intention of bribing Joel & Tess
3)No Marlene wanted the weapons to fight the soldiers.
4) Marlene had intended to transport Ellie herself but they got in a fight with the soldiers and she got wounded, she then quickly came up with the trade guns for smuggling Ellie.
5) Marlee didn't move Ellie because she got shot fighting the soldiers.
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Re: ...So What's the Reason? (Story Spoilers)

Dec 28, 2013
Well, apparently, Marlene made it to the Hospital before Joel and Ellie ever did.

So my question is 'how'. Surely if she could make it, she could have taken Ellie and made it to.

I know she was wounded, but if a wounded Marlene could get there (I know she was probably patched up), why would Ellie have made a difference whether she went or not?

Plus, didn't Marlene have a large group of people with her? I think I'd feel better to let someone like Ellie travel with a team of armed men rather than a duo of smugglers.

But I know, the Fireflies are huge targets out in the open, and it's hard to sneak around and avoid contact with a huge group of people.

Well I guess that's why it was better for Joel to take her.

But assuming Marlene was never shot, would she have taken Ellie alone or with a group?
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You known you make a good point if Marlene stayed behind in Boston to heal from her gun shot then how did Marlene make to Utah before Joel ?
You make another good point if she had a group of fireflies then wouldn't Ellie have been better protected ?
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@Sweetbrandigirl: Well, I think Joel was suppose to get Ellie to the Capitol Building, where she was suppose to be taken hold of by some Fireflies, who would get her to wherever it is Marlene needed her to be (College or Hosptial).

At this point, Joel wants to give up, but Tess has been bitten and doesn't just want Joel to 'give up', so she convinces him to keep going. So Joel decides to get her to Tommy's for him to take her.

But Joel takes her instead, to the College, and finally to the Hosptial.

Now Marlene made it to the Hospital quicker because Joel and Ellie had some detours. I mean, they wasted time getting to that College, and plus Joel got injured there so they had to stop for a few weeks. This probably allowed Marlene to pass them, and she knows the area better probably so she might have gotten there quicker because of her knowledge of the land.
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Re: ...So What's the Reason? (Story Spoilers)

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Yes. They were supposed to drop her off with fireflies at the capital bldg but they were all killed
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Re: ...So What's the Reason? (Story Spoilers)

Dec 31, 2013

Sweetbrandigirl wrote:
You known you make a good point if Marlene stayed behind in Boston to heal from her gun shot then how did Marlene make to Utah before Joel ?
You make another good point if she had a group of fireflies then wouldn't Ellie have been better protected ?

You have to remember that Joel & Tess were only supposed to escort Ellie to the Boston capital building. Obviously that plan changed when the Fireflies were all killed before they got there, Tess was bitten, and the soldiers showed up at the building. 

 

At that point Joel doesn't know where the Fireflies were taking Ellie (Salt Lake City) so his path there is a lot more indirect and includes Pittsburgh, Colorado and Wyoming. Presumably Marlene is able to recover from her injury and get to Salt Lake City ahead of Joel and Ellie b/c she knows the location of the Fireflies from the onset. 

 

From what I could tell playing through the game it took Joel and Ellie about a year to gett to Salt Lake City.

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Probably a little under a year, because I think the game starts in Summer (after the intro) and they arrive in Salt Lake City in the Spring. I think they arrive back at Tommy's in Summer, so that's probably a full cycle.
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Marlene probably knew safer route to SLC, and she has connections to each QZ they've passed through, that's why she and her remaining crew got to the hospital first... Joel and Ellie, having to deal with multiple obstacles, took to their destination longer than anticipated.

 

I'm thinking the fireflies kept the merchandises since they've probably thought Joel, Tess and Ellie would never make it out of the Boston QZ alive.

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