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Uncharted Territory
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Re: Will the PS4 version be uncensored in the EU

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With respect TheNobleSquirrel, you need to stop talking about stuff you have no idea about and passing it off as fact.

When you say "EU won't allow it", what are you even talking about, specifically?! There is no EU board that bans or censors material.

Every individual country has their own standards, yes, but the vast majority of them now defer to PEGI for classification (except Germany, who still has an active board in the form of USK), and as stated above PEGI don't censor or ban material, they ONLY rate it. 

If a particular country needs to censor material then they will step in, but everyone except Germany doesn't need to, they don't request it.

The Last Of Us was pre-emptively self-censored by ND / SCEE, before submission to PEGI and the USK, basically to save the hassle of potentially having to resubmit to USK and create a separate, localised version / disc. USK never rejected anything, because ND / SCEE had already cut the balls off the multiplayer before they even saw it.

So they gimped it for the whole of the EU and submitted one version for everyone, on a lowest common denominator approach, due to Germany (and Australia too, as when we say EU we really mean PAL region).

Games aren't censored by patch, think about it, if someone didn't have internet in Germany they would end up playing the uncensored version wouldn't they?

If games could be censored / uncensored by patch then they could have done that to uncensor all the copies in countries that aren't Germany / Australia, but they didn't because it would still involve re-classifying.

The crux of the problem is that SCEE can't be bothered to submit different versions of games for different countries in the PAL region, whether that's on disc, or digital makes no difference, it's the process involved in that. So what we are protesting is the treatment of millions of EU fans being given a 'lite' version (against our knowledge, at the time of release) because they can't be bothered to put in a bit of extra distribution work.

THINK OF HOW MUCH MONEY THE LAST OF US MADE. The cost of submission is in the thousands, that's it.


Well, the SP is uncensored on both versions, it is only MP that is censored.

To play MP you need the latest patch, therefore if it was released as a day one patch, you'd have to download it in order to access MP [said content.] 

Can't bypass that.

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Re: Will the PS4 version be uncensored in the EU

Apr 11, 2014
Good point, which means the fact that Naughty Dog didn't censor it like that is even more ridiculous. Every week you see games on the PSN store which have individual country availability, all it would take is a patch just like that. But they never did.
This is why we're so annoyed, it's not JUST the fact that it was censored, it's that it also makes so little sense and was done in such a careless and backwards way, and they lied about it pre release
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Re: Will the PS4 version be uncensored in the EU

Apr 12, 2014

Hey guys, I have a question.

 

If there is a country that is part of Europe and is not part of the EU, did it have it's multiplayer censored?

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Apr 12, 2014

BortLicensePlate wrote:

Hey guys, I have a question.

 

If there is a country that is part of Europe and is not part of the EU, did it have it's multiplayer censored?


I think Australia is another one. Poor Australians.... always getting so many things censored :smileytongue:

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Re: Will the PS4 version be uncensored in the EU

Apr 12, 2014
^ yes, I think so
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Re: Will the PS4 version be uncensored in the EU

Apr 12, 2014

Probably :/

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Re: Will the PS4 version be uncensored in the EU

Apr 13, 2014
Yes, when we say "EU" it's really just shorthand for what has traditionally been the PAL region, which also includes Australia etc.

Different distributors probably have slightly different territorial boundaries that they define themselves when deciding where and how to release their games, and some refer to it as EMEA (I think it stands for Europe, Middle East, Australia - or maybe Asia).

What is common though is that it has pretty much nothing to do with the actual 'European Union', it's just a way of referring to Europe really, so if there's a country not in the EU but part of the continent they will almost definitely still get the same 'PAL version'.
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Re: Will the PS4 version be uncensored in the EU

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So still nothing.

 

Time to make stupid cryptic tweets, but no time to say if it's censored or not?

 

Really, it's that difficult to say whether it is or not? Even if it's not finalised, is it that hard to simply say, we don't know yet and then say nearer the time?

 

 

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Re: Will the PS4 version be uncensored in the EU

Apr 14, 2014
I'd assume it will be the same in this regard as the PS3 versions.
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conquerator3 wrote:
I'd assume it will be the same in this regard as the PS3 versions.

So would I.

 

But it would be nice if ND would confirm one way or the other. You know, show some respect to the EU fanbase this time around, rather than like last time, where they appeared to have nothing but contempt for EU players.

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