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Re: Strategist 2 has ruined the game for me

Jul 25, 2013

The radar range on Strategist is short enough to be balanced, you need a booster like Strategist to balance out Covert Training just as GMRcris pointed out. Especially with all these silenced weapons people need a way of being uncovered if they just sit in one spot.

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Re: Strategist 2 has ruined the game for me

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Silenced weapons? Why use those?
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Re: Strategist 2 has ruined the game for me

Jul 25, 2013

Wow, now listening mode is OP too? If you guys don't like these core mechanics, why play and why post to the forums at all? Without LM, it's just a totally different (and not as fun, imo) game...also, Strategist is a just another good ability in a long list of good abilities. Covert training is still better, so whinge about Strategist?

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I wondered why all my friend don't play this game. Hell, this game isn't played by very many people at all. I wonder why? Maybe because team piling isn't fun.
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Re: Strategist 2 has ruined the game for me

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So the complaint is that a skill is useful in some areas of some maps, and that ruins the GAME for you?

 

OK.



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neverbelow wrote:

I just learned a sad fact tonight. ND insists on having SA in their games. It's uncountable in this game. No wonder it's not more popular.

Uncounterable SA within a few feet. It makes doing anything but stay next to your team at all times a waste of time. It makes sneaking around and flanking a waste of time.

I honestly can't stand SA. Apparently people are ok with it in the game. I'm not. It's a joke.


Hmm, honestly I see no issue at all here. Don't care if they see me around corners, I'll get'em down anyways lol

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The complaint is that you can clear entire areas without going into them just by being on the level above or below it.
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I love this game alot, BUT!! i think the whole "X-RAY VISION" (call it what you want) ruins the whole atmosphere of the game, which is why after the demo came out I've kept it disabled since......I'ts a cheap gimmick that ruins the immersion of the game...and it being available for everyone to use is kinda dumb....it just doesn't fit this game AT ALL.... Maybe in a cartoony, comic book based type of game? but not here. Im glad they gave us the option for SP, its pretty much a glorified wallhack? whats the point? Which is why im hoping ND comes through with a hardcore playlist....And I'm not trying insult anyone who goes around using it I just feel it doesn't blend in with the whole survival horror aspect of this game....i dont know, but i never could stand any of ND's boosters they add to the multiplayer aspect of their games.... it just feels "Tacky" UC had some as well that just seemed cheesy... kickbacks, etc...some kind of fit the game though like crafter for instance, seeing as how its a part of the main focus of surviving and making things on the fly...but seeing through walls and crap like that just takes it overboard...IMO maybe if they explained how Joel (and the factions) acquired this ability i'd probably be more open to it....../rant over .and on a side note i still love the multiplayer.

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neverbelow wrote:
I wondered why all my friend don't play this game. Hell, this game isn't played by very many people at all. I wonder why? Maybe because team piling isn't fun.

This game was never an MP game, and lots of people don't even know it has one. Even if they did, it's a very slow-paced unique ND game that isn't everyone's cup of tea. And when I tell my friends about it, I also tell them that they might not like it.

 

Lots of people I know don't like TPS online MPs, so people not playing the game has absolutely nothing to do with Strategist or Listen Mode, unless you can prove that.

 

As for Strategist, I never tried it honestly, but I never noticed people flanking me when I'm running Covert Training 2/3. Plus, when I'm not running Cover, I have an agressive playstyle where I run most of the time, as there is no point in crouching/walking. So either way, I'm not really concerned about Strategist or Listen Mode. If you compare Survival Skills like Covert Training, First Aid Training and Crafter, I would say most players would prefer those over 3 loadout points just to see enemies "around the corner".

 

As I said before, nothing beats a well organised team in this game. And I don't see how such a small radius of Strategist could become a game ruiner all of a sudden. How can you know enemies saw you because of it? Simple answer is.. you can't.




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My friend's tried it and liked it initially. Now nearly all of them have completely stopped playing it. If this game is so deep and nuanced then why is the competitive side of this game dead? Same with the parties playlist. I run into the same people all the time.
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