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Nice, out of how much?

 

Grenades are useless if you havent the bank&boom option and thats absoluty BS.

 

This unrealistic **bleep** throwback should be a booster and not an mechanic that is giving to everyone.

 


Nothing about Uncharted is realistic that's part of what makes it so cool, the throwback mechanic was a great addition IMO.

It fits in with the faster pace of the game it sorta adds a little more depth/Tactic to the overall 'battlefield' for a lack of a better word.

 

we even got a potential mini game mode out of it.

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Nice, out of how much?

 

Grenades are useless if you havent the bank&boom option and thats absoluty BS.

 

This unrealistic **bleep** throwback should be a booster and not an mechanic that is giving to everyone.

 


I throw about 5 grenades every match and get at least 2 kills with them, some people just need to learn how to use them.

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Throwing back grenades made grenades useless in UC3. In UC2, when you saw a grenade next to you, you took cover or ran away. In 3, you can simply press a button to send it back.

I find funny when people say grenades are useless, I can use them and get 2-4 kills every match.


Exactly! I actually find grenades cooler in UC3 because you have to be somewhat ingenious about the way you use them. The reason people say nades are useless is that they just spam them mindlessly, even though, like Zidane said, there are plenty of ways to ensure your nades' effectiveness...


Agreed, I have no problem getting kills with nades unless they throw it back or dodge it. The grenades are ment to be used to "aid" you in combat, not to be used as a primary weapon during gunfights.

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Throwing back grenades made grenades useless in UC3. In UC2, when you saw a grenade next to you, you took cover or ran away. In 3, you can simply press a button to send it back.

I find funny when people say grenades are useless, I can use them and get 2-4 kills every match.


Exactly! I actually find grenades cooler in UC3 because you have to be somewhat ingenious about the way you use them. The reason people say nades are useless is that they just spam them mindlessly, even though, like Zidane said, there are plenty of ways to ensure your nades' effectiveness...


Agreed, I have no problem getting kills with nades unless they throw it back or dodge it. The grenades are ment to be used to "aid" you in combat, not to be used as a primary weapon during gunfights.


Seems reasonable, considering you can't fire as you throw, and you can't throw it back ALL the time. I've had nades I tried to throw back and it exploded in my face.

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Some kickbacks shouldn't have made it in the game. Still, I don't see a problem with aggressive kickbacks compared to defensive ones. When you're in the situation where you have enough medals for a kickback, usually you want kills and not protection. 

 

Regarding map design, I agree that layered maps are good. Uncharted is the most vertical MP I have played, which is one thing that makes Uncharted unique. Just don't overdo it, like with Highrise. Highrise is perhaps too big and vertical making it a  least favorite map to many. 

 

Cover isn't useful for 2 reasons. First, getting into cover is a pain in the **bleep**. Rolling and taking cover being on the same button has caused many deaths for me. Second, covers can really become death traps due to lag. What if the players could slide into cover making it less likely to die just after getting into cover? Throwback-grenades are an improvement, because in Uncharted 2 if you were in a cover and you had a grenade thrown dirctly at you, you were dead. 

 

Now, Power plays, who would miss them? Money isn't big enough motivator to make players play properly during PPs. PPs attempt to make the match more interesting and balanced, but if the winning team is just camping their **bleep** off during PPs, what's the use? I'd say get rid of them.

 

However I must emphasize  that a lot of Uncharted 3 new features were good. Loadouts, customization, kickbacks, buddy system, sprint, grenade-throwback and other stuff I've forgotten. Hopefully they have lots of new features planned for Uncharted 4. 

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I agree with lag ruining cover, although cover is very useful to me. Hopefully they adjust it a little, like using the ps4's touchpad. Hold the touchpad and circle for cover-emphasis and circle only for roll emphasis.

Cover is useful for me in a sense that I use it a lot, and not just to camp. I use it when I'm in a direct gunfight so that he has to run over to me.
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Before we make assumptions that PP isn't wanted by everyone, let's see if there are people who "kinda want them" and try to discuss an agreement with them.

We don't want an HC repeat.
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All i can say is NO COMPETITIVE KICKBACKS! In coop definately but in the competitive mp heck no way to unbalanced

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Some kickbacks shouldn't have made it in the game. Still, I don't see a problem with aggressive kickbacks compared to defensive ones. When you're in the situation where you have enough medals for a kickback, usually you want kills and not protection. 

 

Regarding map design, I agree that layered maps are good. Uncharted is the most vertical MP I have played, which is one thing that makes Uncharted unique. Just don't overdo it, like with Highrise. Highrise is perhaps too big and vertical making it a  least favorite map to many. 

 

Cover isn't useful for 2 reasons. First, getting into cover is a pain in the **bleep**. Rolling and taking cover being on the same button has caused many deaths for me. Second, covers can really become death traps due to lag. What if the players could slide into cover making it less likely to die just after getting into cover? Throwback-grenades are an improvement, because in Uncharted 2 if you were in a cover and you had a grenade thrown dirctly at you, you were dead. 

 

Now, Power plays, who would miss them? Money isn't big enough motivator to make players play properly during PPs. PPs attempt to make the match more interesting and balanced, but if the winning team is just camping their **bleep** off during PPs, what's the use? I'd say get rid of them.

 

However I must emphasize  that a lot of Uncharted 3 new features were good. Loadouts, customization, kickbacks, buddy system, sprint, grenade-throwback and other stuff I've forgotten. Hopefully they have lots of new features planned for Uncharted 4. 


I agree with what you said for the most part except for the buddy system ugh it needs to go lol.

Also funny enough during the beta we could slide into cover, dunno why they got rid of it.

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Before we make assumptions that PP isn't wanted by everyone, let's see if there are people who "kinda want them" and try to discuss an agreement with them.

We don't want an HC repeat.

PP's has no place in a online COMP game etc. 

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